[tor-talk] "Hidden Services" vs "Onion services"
paul.syverson at nrl.navy.mil
Thu Nov 13 13:52:38 UTC 2014
This is also nice because it further emphasizes the distinction
between the thing that the user is setting up and the network that
is providing secure/hidden/private/location-protected/whatever access to it.
'Onion service' to me doesn't as cleanly conceptually separate the
service that is protected behind the onion network and the service of
protection for it that the network provides.
There are things besides onion websites (e.g. onionshare or private access
for system administration) that it seems are more reasonably connoted
by 'service' than 'site', but no convenient-enough-to-be-useful term
is going to be the 100% best choice in all respects. 'Onion site'
sounds like a winner to me. (But who would have expected it, clearly a
dark horse, perhaps even a dark web horseman of the infocalypse...
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 09:48:09PM -0800, Virgil Griffith wrote:
> Onion sites sounds nice to me too. But we might have to change the
> name to from tor2web to onion2web.
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Seth David Schoen <schoen at eff.org> wrote:
> > Nathan Freitas writes:
> >> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014, at 11:38 PM, Virgil Griffith wrote:
> >> > I'll start trying "onion service" and just see if it catches on.
> >> Since these things are mostly used for websites, why not call them
> >> "onion sites" or "onionsites"?
> >> Typical users don't talk about web services, they talk about web sites
> >> or pages. Perhaps they say "online service" but that usually means an
> >> ISP or something larger than just a site, imo.
> >> "Turn your website into an onionsite"
> >> "Access the onionsite in the same way you access a website"
> > It could be technically consistent to say both "hidden services" and
> > "onion sites" -- you could say that onion sites are web sites that are
> > served as hidden services.
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