[tor-talk] Operation Onymous against hidden services, most DarkNet markets are down

[Juan]

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 19:38:21 +0100
Öyvind Saether <oyvinds at everdot.org> wrote:

> > 	That is possible, but I'm not sure I'm fully following.
> > Suppose that some "off line" dealer has his phone tapped, and then
> > he starts selling through a market like silk road. What of it?
> > Why would that lead in any way to finding out who the hidden
> > 	service's owner/admin is?  The hidden service's owner isn't
> > 	going to talk on the phone with the dealers who use his
> > site. That is not his 'business model'.
> 
> Keep this quote in mind when you consider those idiotic "they must
> have found out that you were running a hidden service by tapping your
> phone because you were running a hidden service" circular arguments by
> obvious cointelpro:


	Yes, that's more or less what I got from John's message, but I
	don't mind giving him the benefit of the doubt and reading some
	sort of clarification of his first post...




> 
> “This is something we want to keep for ourselves,” he said. “The way
> we do this, we can’t share with the whole world, because we want to
> do it again and again and again.”

	Well, the criminal organization known as "US government" pretty
	much acknowledges that their 'justice'  system is based on
	secret trials. 

	Again : 

	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction

	and 

	"DEA and NSA Team Up to Share Intelligence, Leading to Secret Use of
Surveillance in Ordinary Investigations" 


	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/dea-and-nsa-team-intelligence-laundering


> 
> http://www.wired.com/2014/11/operation-onymous-dark-web-arrests/
>