[tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

Martin S shieldfire at gmail.com
Wed Jul 23 15:58:32 UTC 2014

You mean ARPA-net? 


On 23 Jul 2014, Sarah <caped_wonderwoman at zoho.com> wrote:
>Shh, don't let them find out that the military has had ties to the
>Internet since before it was the Internet. The concentrated hysteria
>might warp the space-time continuum. 
>On July 23, 2014 9:02:46 AM EDT, Moritz Bartl <moritz at torservers.net>
>>On 07/23/2014 02:24 PM, Kristy Chambers wrote:
>>> Have I written, that there is anything creepy about that?
>>> The basic question is, in how the tor project can be trusted if we
>>> on suspicious activities of tor developers (e.g. choosing worse
>>> decisions).
>>The whole process is open; Tor may sometimes be slow at making any
>>design decisions, exactly because they want everything to be backed by
>>proper research. http://freehaven.net/anonbib/ is a repository of a
>>of papers, and the research community obviously has a close eye on Tor
>>and alternative designs. Many people, like me, coming from a computer
>>science/privacy research background, can evaluate the decisions and so
>>far there is no evidence that Tor doesn't try its best.
>>Everyone is aware of the bad situation of the US government funding
>>almost every serious venture in privacy these days, but EU funding is
>>awarded very differently and hard to acquire as a free software
>>If you have a good idea where to get independent funding, we could
>>start a completely non-US dependent entity to work on Tor.
>>Tor never tried to hide the US background and its funding sources. Of
>>course, there is always a (maybe subtle) influence by a funder, but in
>>general Tor writes the proposals and the deliverables and does it in a
>>very sane way.
>>This FUD comes up quite often these days, one must wonder if there's
>>some controlled media campaign going on. Then again, random
>>come across this non-story all the time.
>>Moritz Bartl
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