[tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

Sarah caped_wonderwoman at zoho.com
Wed Jul 23 14:50:52 UTC 2014

Shh, don't let them find out that the military has had ties to the Internet since before it was the Internet. The concentrated hysteria might warp the space-time continuum. 

On July 23, 2014 9:02:46 AM EDT, Moritz Bartl <moritz at torservers.net> wrote:
>On 07/23/2014 02:24 PM, Kristy Chambers wrote:
>> Have I written, that there is anything creepy about that?
>> The basic question is, in how the tor project can be trusted if we
>> on suspicious activities of tor developers (e.g. choosing worse
>> decisions).
>The whole process is open; Tor may sometimes be slow at making any
>design decisions, exactly because they want everything to be backed by
>proper research. http://freehaven.net/anonbib/ is a repository of a lot
>of papers, and the research community obviously has a close eye on Tor
>and alternative designs. Many people, like me, coming from a computer
>science/privacy research background, can evaluate the decisions and so
>far there is no evidence that Tor doesn't try its best.
>Everyone is aware of the bad situation of the US government funding
>almost every serious venture in privacy these days, but EU funding is
>awarded very differently and hard to acquire as a free software
>If you have a good idea where to get independent funding, we could even
>start a completely non-US dependent entity to work on Tor.
>Tor never tried to hide the US background and its funding sources. Of
>course, there is always a (maybe subtle) influence by a funder, but in
>general Tor writes the proposals and the deliverables and does it in a
>very sane way.
>This FUD comes up quite often these days, one must wonder if there's
>some controlled media campaign going on. Then again, random journalists
>come across this non-story all the time.
>Moritz Bartl
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