[tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

Elrippo Athletico elrippo at elrippoisland.net
Wed Jul 23 13:54:46 UTC 2014


Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2014, 14:24:55 schrieb Kristy Chambers:
> Have I written, that there is anything creepy about that?
> The basic question is, in how the tor project can be trusted if we look
> on suspicious activities of tor developers (e.g. choosing worse design
> decisions).
> 
> > I am aware for what this was build and is used, you not?
> 
> It's very pathetic to state - in better a position - to know everything
> before, as a lot of people do on the global spy affair. Instead of
> continuing this nasty behavior people like you should inform and give
> illuming information on such issues. You're not alone.

1.) Regarding TOR:
I am sorry for you, many others, current and raising TOR users for reading the 
history of the i-net and TOR.
I think every majure and grown one on this planet using software more than 
installing it by clicking yes, and yes and yes is reading the miscansellous 
part before installing anything.
If you have used TOR without the knowledge of certain circumstances, i gently 
may advise you to do some reading, before you state me or others to not have 
told you of some horrific scenarios.
I did not say that i know everything, but i am using TOR in an advanced matter 
and i make my mistakes daily, trying to learn as much as i can.
I personally think you should do the same.

2.) Regarding mass surveilance:
Our global spy affair is nothing new, especially the digital one, Snowden just 
brought it up on the mass media. Every admin of a backbonerouter knew that 
probably before Snowden was hired by the NSA.
Also the affair of memorizing every phone call is nothing new to professionals, 
this was also raised by snowden in the mass media.
Do some reading about google, and please do not use google to find some 
awnsers, and then ask yourself why google is offering blazing fast services and 
a mobile OS for free?

3.) Conclusion:
The way of using depends on you, not on the provider. Please don't walk 
arround and stamp with your foot on the floor, just because you did not know.
We always have to choose between the less severe consequences, not the best 
ones.
I don't blame TOR for beeing funded by NSA, CIA, NAVY and what so ever. The 
fact that govs are using it, even EU sited ones, makes me think that it can't 
be that bad for me to be a sidekick.
If you find a better solution, we all are happy to read about it :D

Ultima Ratio: If you don't trust it, don't use it!

Kind regards,
elrippo.
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