[tor-talk] High-latency hidden services

Aymeric Vitte vitteaymeric at gmail.com
Fri Jul 4 10:52:35 UTC 2014

If I understand correctly the question here is not about browsing but 
fetching something that you don't need immediately for offline reading 
and that you download with high latency using different circuits.

That's easy to do, if you take Peersm again, it's easy to send several 
random requests to different circuits requesting part of the resource to 
the website and then store them asynchronously, you can request the 
pieces in the order you like and when you like, you can retrieve them 
from the website or the peers if they have it.

Le 04/07/2014 03:31, Mirimir a écrit :
> On 07/03/2014 04:16 PM, Seth David Schoen wrote:
>> The Doctor writes:
>>> On 07/02/2014 04:18 PM, Helder Ribeiro wrote:
>>>> Apps like Pocket (http://getpocket.com/) work as a "read it later"
>>>> queue, downloading things for offline reading. While you're reading
>>>> an offline article, you can also follow links and click to add them
>>>> to your queue. They'll be fetched when you're online so you can
>>>> read them later.
>>> I've been using the Firefox extension called Scrapbook
>>> (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/scrapbook/) for this
>>> for a while now.  I've done some experiments with it (packet sniffing
>>> at the firewall and on the machine in question), and from observation
>>> it seems sufficiently proxy-compliant that it routes all traffic in
>>> question through Tor when it downloads and stores a local copy of a
>>> page.  Secondary opinions are, of course, welcome and encouraged.
>> That's great, but in the context of this thread I would want to imagine
>> a future-generation version that does a much better job of hiding who
>> is downloading which pages -- by high-latency mixing, like an
>> anonymous remailer chain.
> One can imagine a browser extension that introduced random delay at each
> step of getting a page. Webservers tend to drop very slow clients, as
> defense against slow-loris DoS, so the extension would need to learn the
> limits for each site.
>> The existing Tor network can't directly support this use case very
>> well, except by acting as a transport.
> The ability to switch circuits during the process of getting a page
> would help greatly.
>> Right now, people who are using toolks like Pocket or Scrapbook over Tor
>> _aren't_ really getting the privacy benefits that in principle their
>> not-needing-to-read-it-right-this-second could be offering.  That is,
>> a global-enough adversary can sometimes notice that person X has just
>> downloaded item Y for offline reading.  There's no reason that the
>> adversary has to be able to do that.

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