[tor-talk] Court – Official statement part #1

Joe Btfsplk joebtfsplk at gmx.com
Wed Jul 2 21:11:16 UTC 2014

On 7/2/2014 11:41 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> Apologies, not sure this has been posted already in the thread, I'm
> backlogged.
> https://rdns.im/court-official-statement-part-1
> Court – Official statement part #1
> Posted on July 2, 2014 by Will
> As seen possibly here, or here i lost the Tor case and was sentenced to 3
> years probation (instead of 3 months jail) and all fees (court and experts,
> Assumption ~30000EUR, not less than 20k for sure).
> It’s now finally over and besides the
> cost i CAN live with this sentence, it does not show up in police registers
> and won’t be an issue for work and alike in the future.
Unless your "conviction" or settlement (what ever the legal term in 
Austria)  for this situation is unusual in the Austrian legal system, 
the fact of it not showing up on your permanent record, so it won't 
affect getting work in the future, etc., is QUITE different than in the 
U.S., for similar "crimes convictions."  Of course, every legal matter & 
decision is different.

Perhaps it was part of the probation that if you behave, it will be 
expunged (removed) from your record?

But for *adults* convicted of crimes (certainly ANY thing to do w/ child 
porn or abuse), it would remain on your record until death.
Sorry, I couldn't load the linked page for "official statement part 1, 
so didn't get the exact crime they eventually convicted you of.

Maybe your conviction wasn't "child prOn trafficking, but if convicted 
of the *least* possible crime involving that (or sexual abuse of a 
minor) in the U.S., it probably will remain on your record.
Unless due to circumstances, a U.S. judge feels your record should be 
expunged, once probation is fulfilled.  If the law even gives a judge 
that leeway, for a specific crime.
> So this is it for now, stay tuned for more in a few days.

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