[tor-talk] Troubleshooting failed Startpage connection [Was: still unable to reach StartPage or Ixquick]
joebtfsplk at gmx.com
Thu Oct 10 16:26:51 UTC 2013
On 10/9/2013 10:59 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote:
> On 10/9/2013 8:00 PM, krishna e bera wrote:
>> On 13-10-09 07:14 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote:
>>> ... in 3.0a4, ... there's no change in being unable to
>>> connect to Startpage, Ixquick, DDG; often even Wikipedia -SSL & Google.
>>> in regular Fx, can connect to all of them instantly.
>> When you reinstalled or upgraded your TBB, did you remove the directory
>> first? Sometimes a clean install gets rid of strange glitches leftover
>> from in place upgrades.
> I never install TBB over the top of old versions or use an old profile.
> Since it's done the same thing (starting > a wk ago in 2.3.25-12), now
> same exact thing in 2.3.25-13 & 3.0a4.
> I can connect to Bing & Yahoo - in any TBB version I'm now trying.
> I even have tabs open w/ the URLs already entered for Startpage,
> Ixquick, Google & say Bing, Yahoo AND any usual site. Google doesn't
> fail as much, but never had a problem w/ any of them before.
> So when Startpage, et al. fail, I instantly load another site
> (Mozilla.org, etc.) - which succeeds - using the same relay circuit.
> I checked w/ the network map open to make sure circuits weren't
> changing between the failures & successes.
> One or 2x wouldn't mean anything, but I've repeated it dozens of times
> over many days w/ very consistent results.
> I also have Firefox open w/ the same site as TBB - say Startpage. When
> they fail in TBB, I instantly load it in regular Fx & loads every
> time. So the search sites' servers aren't overloaded - at least for
> normal internet traffic.
> For a bit, I wondered if my ISP was slowing connections to Tor relays,
> but I don't have the TBB connection problem w/ most other sites, so
> that can't be it. I'm just brain storming.
> Thinking outside the box - what if I look at the problem from opposite
> direction. Instead of thinking as a problem of "Startpage, et al. not
> accepting Tor / TBB," look at it from a "Tor / TBB having problems
> with these sites" stance (Startpage, et al.).
> There's obviously SOME reason, but not typical - given all the methods
> & versions I've used to rule out possibilities. Yahoo, Bing, Amazon,
> Ebay searches - together w/ the nsa, *must* be blocking me from other
> searches engines, forcing me to use them. Yeah, that must be it.
I assume? most users of WINDOWS TBB 2.3.25-12/13 that have read of my
problem, have recently tried Startpage, Ixquick, DDG - & not really
having any issues?
Would Tor message log posted here have anything useful that more
experienced users may spot a problem?
I looked at logs (w/ Debug, error, warning, notice turned on) for FAILED
connection to Startpage / Ixquick & Check.torproject VS. good
connection to other sites. Nothing obvious - others may see something.
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