[tor-talk] still unable to reach StartPage or Ixquick

Joe Btfsplk joebtfsplk at gmx.com
Thu Oct 10 14:28:32 UTC 2013

On 10/10/2013 5:11 AM, Alex wrote:
> Orbot/orweb combination (android devices) does not seem to have any 
> issues.
Thanks.  Good to know.  I'm using Windows desktop & laptop.

> Am 10. Oktober 2013 05:59:15 schrieb Joe Btfsplk <joebtfsplk at gmx.com>:
>> On 10/9/2013 8:00 PM, krishna e bera wrote:
>> > On 13-10-09 07:14 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote:
>> >> After manually adding prefs.js entries in 3.0a4, that were 
>> suggested on
>> >> Tor project Trac to make it work, there's no change in being 
>> unable to
>> >> connect to Startpage, Ixquick, DDG; often even Wikipedia -SSL & 
>> Google.
>> >>
>> >> Could it be (for Startpage & Ixquick), they've suddenly become very
>> >> popular, due to lots of recent news about various "people" watching
>> >> everything?  Maybe they're limiting Tor or other anonymous traffic to
>> >> keep servers open for regular users.
>> >>
>> >> No explanation for DDG, Wikipedia.  Just that in regular Fx, can 
>> connect
>> >> to all of them instantly.
>> >
>> > When you reinstalled or upgraded your TBB, did you remove the 
>> directory
>> > first?  Sometimes a clean install gets rid of strange glitches 
>> leftover
>> > from in place upgrades.
>> >
>> I never install TBB over the top of old versions or use an old profile.
>> Since it's done the same thing (starting > a wk ago in 2.3.25-12), 
>> now same exact thing in 2.3.25-13 & 3.0a4.
>> I can connect to Bing & Yahoo - in any TBB version I'm now trying.
>> I even have tabs open w/ the URLs already entered for Startpage, 
>> Ixquick, Google & say Bing, Yahoo AND any usual site. Google doesn't 
>> fail as much, but never had a problem w/ any of them before.
>> So when Startpage, et al. fail, I instantly load another site 
>> (Mozilla.org, etc.) - which succeeds - using the same relay circuit.  
>> I checked w/ the network map open to make sure circuits weren't 
>> changing between the failures & successes.
>> One or 2x wouldn't mean anything, but I've repeated it dozens of 
>> times over many days w/ very consistent results.
>> I also have Firefox open w/ the same site as TBB - say Startpage. 
>> When they fail in TBB, I instantly load it in regular Fx & loads 
>> every time. So the search sites' servers aren't overloaded - at least 
>> for normal internet traffic.
>> For a bit, I wondered if my ISP was slowing connections to Tor 
>> relays, but I don't  have the TBB connection problem w/ most other 
>> sites, so that can't be it.  I'm just brain storming.
>> Thinking outside the box - what if I look at the problem from 
>> opposite direction.  Instead of thinking as a problem of "Startpage, 
>> et al. not accepting Tor / TBB," look at it from a "Tor / TBB having 
>> problems with these sites" stance (Startpage, et al.).
>> There's obviously SOME reason, but not typical - given all the 
>> methods & versions I've used to rule out possibilities. Yahoo, Bing, 
>> Amazon, Ebay searches - together w/ the nsa, *must* be blocking me 
>> from other searches engines, forcing me to use them. Yeah, that must 
>> be it.
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