[tor-talk] still unable to reach StartPage or Ixquick

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> On Oct 9, 2013, at 21:59, Joe Btfsplk <joebtfsplk at gmx.com> wrote:
>> On 10/9/2013 8:00 PM, krishna e bera wrote:
>>> On 13-10-09 07:14 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote:
>>> After manually adding prefs.js entries in 3.0a4, that were suggested on
>>> Tor project Trac to make it work, there's no change in being unable to
>>> connect to Startpage, Ixquick, DDG; often even Wikipedia -SSL & Google.
>>> Could it be (for Startpage & Ixquick), they've suddenly become very
>>> popular, due to lots of recent news about various "people" watching
>>> everything?  Maybe they're limiting Tor or other anonymous traffic to
>>> keep servers open for regular users.
>>> No explanation for DDG, Wikipedia.  Just that in regular Fx, can connect
>>> to all of them instantly.
>> When you reinstalled or upgraded your TBB, did you remove the directory
>> first?  Sometimes a clean install gets rid of strange glitches leftover
>> from in place upgrades.
> I never install TBB over the top of old versions or use an old profile.
> Since it's done the same thing (starting > a wk ago in 2.3.25-12), now same exact thing in 2.3.25-13 & 3.0a4.
> I can connect to Bing & Yahoo - in any TBB version I'm now trying.
> I even have tabs open w/ the URLs already entered for Startpage, Ixquick, Google & say Bing, Yahoo AND any usual site. Google doesn't fail as much, but never had a problem w/ any of them before.
> So when Startpage, et al. fail, I instantly load another site (Mozilla.org, etc.) - which succeeds - using the same relay circuit.  I checked w/ the network map open to make sure circuits weren't changing between the failures & successes.
> One or 2x wouldn't mean anything, but I've repeated it dozens of times over many days w/ very consistent results.
> I also have Firefox open w/ the same site as TBB - say Startpage. When they fail in TBB, I instantly load it in regular Fx & loads every time.  So the search sites' servers aren't overloaded - at least for normal internet traffic.
> For a bit, I wondered if my ISP was slowing connections to Tor relays, but I don't  have the TBB connection problem w/ most other sites, so that can't be it.  I'm just brain storming.
> Thinking outside the box - what if I look at the problem from opposite direction.  Instead of thinking as a problem of "Startpage, et al. not accepting Tor / TBB," look at it from a "Tor / TBB having problems with these sites" stance (Startpage, et al.).
> There's obviously SOME reason, but not typical - given all the methods & versions I've used to rule out possibilities.  Yahoo, Bing, Amazon, Ebay searches - together w/ the nsa, *must* be blocking me from other searches engines, forcing me to use them. Yeah, that must be it.
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