[tor-talk] Open Source Router

Yuri yuri at rawbw.com
Thu Nov 28 08:27:40 UTC 2013

On 11/27/2013 15:59, Ed Fletcher wrote:
> There has been lots of discussion on this list about the Safeplug, 
> which didn't garner much enthusiasm from the list members.  I haven't 
> seen this project mentioned:
> http://www.orp1.com/ 

I think this very model buy-and-use isn't compatible with security 
because, as it was discussed before, there can be no proof of firmware 
being built from the particular source. So such simple commercial usage 
model can only rely on the authority of manufacturer, which in the 
modern world it can't realistically have.

Once you deviate from this buy-and-use model and move on to 
buy-reinstall-use, the first question is why would anybody even use the 
open sources of this manufacturer? Or even why whould anybody even use 
this hardware at all? You can just install OpenWRT or dd-wrt and tor on 
one of many existing router hardware be better off. All firmwares of 
particular manufacturers I saw were horrible, and also not-rooted. And 
there is no indication what the HW specs and price will be.

Generally, unless router hardware is truly open source (and again how 
can this really be?), tor run on the computer is much more secure IMO.


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