[tor-talk] [liberationtech] NSA, FBI, Verizon caught red handed spying on US citizens in the US

[Joe Btfsplk]

On 6/7/2013 9:34 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
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> Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 10:20:26 -0400
> From: Richard Brooks <rrb at acm.org>
> To: liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] *NSA, FBI, Verizon caught red handed spying on US citizens in the US*
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Not directed at Eugene.  This isn't new news, to anyone that's paid even 
passing attention, over last several yrs.
Further, it'd be ridiculous to think they're only monitoring Verizon.

Even when they're warned specifically about HUGE red flags, or 
individuals are ON WATCH LISTS, they STILL don't catch them in time 
(latest - Boston).

I'm sure they stop actions that we don't hear about (however, they DO 
like to toot their own horn)...

One respected commentator I heard posed the question, "Are we safer? How 
many plots have been stopped or arrests been made in U.S., as result of 
all the Billions spent BY THE U.S., on monitoring?"

We stopped the "shoe bomber" as result of tip from ? U.K.? (iirc)