[tor-talk] Replacement for Tormail

Gordon Morehouse gordon at morehouse.me
Tue Aug 13 03:46:37 UTC 2013


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Edgar S:
> The function of Tormail I need that suggested solutions don't seem
> to have is the ability to receive and reply to clear text ordinary
> Email sent from a non-secure SMTP.

This is a dealbreaker.  It has to have this.

I wish some trusted entity who has a bit of money and, um, gusto for a
fight, would set up an email service with a .onion entry point.  The
EFF comes to mind, but they have plenty to do.  I'm not sure what
other groups I'd trust.  I never had any idea who was running Tormail.

> As a hosting venue for Tormail and a replacement for Freedom
> Hosting, I suggest Iceland, Brazil, and Venezuela.

Don't forget Norway.

> Venezuela recently offered Snowden asylum, and has a general
> reputation of telling the USA to F off. I have a contact in
> Venezuela that can get hosting accounts with 5 Email addresses for
> about $40/year. I'm trying to get more information now on whether
> it could provide space for Tor onion services.

This isn't gonna cut it.  A Tormail replacement that's any good,
that's reliable, that's censorship-resistant, that's hardened, that
doesn't leak information in any of the myriad ways email can which
could serve to unmask a Tor user ... that will require professionals
to set it up.  It's not going to fly on $random_email_provider +
hidden service and a tunnel, or whatever.

Best,
- -Gordon M.


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