[tor-talk] CloudFlare

NoName antispam06 at sent.at
Fri Apr 19 19:05:56 UTC 2013


On 18.04.2013 23:51, grarpamp wrote:
> Of course it isn't imaginary. However this is where kneejerkers are
> just being dumb... 2^8 exits will *never* ever be anything in comparison
> to the 2^30 IP's reasonably estimated to be actually in use. Ten
> square kilo's of your favorite big city has more abusable open IP's
> than 2^8. Know how many big cities there are? Know how many
> laptops and wifi and open wallplates there are? Lots.

The only problem you guys are ignoring is the human factor. It might 
sound harsh, but it's plain reality: most system admins are too narrow 
minded to figgure out most things beyond where and how to ask for a loaf 
of bread. They are just complex drones in a complex system. As long as 
computers are still not bright enough to autoconfigure themselves, these 
guys are going to earn a living. So the 15 day crash course says make a 
rule, block an IP. And they are going to do it as it is the only thing 
they know.

Throw in the mix the fact that building a community is much harder than 
policing it. Ever wondered why nice places like England are day by day 
turning into Airstrip One?

And throw in the mix that this is how the tools are shaped. Because, 
even if you like it or not, software developers are regular people. 
Meaning most have an ability to grasp finer concepts way below average 
in order to give the global average of today. Looking at some of the 
things done and said by a client to a server and you can believe most of 
the current conspiracy theorists. Only there is no conspiracy. Only 
plain stupidity. Take Tails for example: once upon a time they used to 
default to check.torproject.org. Only that somebody decided it would be 
cool to have some statistics. Now it defaults to the tails homepage. 
Same thing went through the minds of the Ubuntu developers. Most people 
buy from Amazon. Amazon pays for trafic. They just joined the two 
statements into their interface. And, from a certain point of view, it's 
obvious: they are giving a fine product that has set an industry 
standard in just a couple of years gratis. They deserve the money. And 
they can use the money to give DVDs away and sponsor free software that 
is not cool enough to get money, but is important enough to have it 
stable. It's a bad idea. Greased with a lot of honey.


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