[tor-talk] Bridge Communities?

[Alex M (Coyo)]

On 04/13/2013 09:15 PM, adrelanos wrote:
> Sebastian G. <bastik.tor>:
>> (Fun part?)
> Not a fun part for me. It's sad that these concern have been raised by
> a troll (or someone who doesn't know how to behave). However, these
> concerns are valid, and from my perspective, I can't understand why
> they are easily dismissed.

I don't see the problem. I HAVE been dismissed.

I'm surprised I haven't been IP-banned already, not that it would do any 
good.

IP bans are trivial to circumvent, and that's without using Tor.

>> About assassinating (double ass) the (core?) Tor people....
>>
>> I have read that you can hire assassins on hidden-services.
>> Wouldn't it be ironic if one hires an assassin (or many of them)
>> via hidden-services to take the lives or Tor people?
>>
>> They tend to pile up on something they call developers meeting
>> (aka DevMeeting). It's kind of public when and where such a
>> meetings will take place and who will attend to them.
>>
>> The US owns drones (and they love to use them), European states buy
>> also drones so if someone gets accused for treason, which is
>> probably Mr. Jacob Appelbaum because of his relation to wikileaks,
>> while Tor is also a threat such a meeting would be a juicy target.
>> With someone killed for treason or terrorism (or supporting it) the
>> other dead bodies are just collateral damage.
>>
>> That doesn't scare me.
> It scares me.
>
>> I'd never want that to happen.
> Me neither.
>
>> If it doesn't look like an accident (in this case or any other)
>> people will notice about them missing or being killed. I hope that
>> people will fight murders.
>>
>> Tor might be dead, but people will be upset about the death of
>> innocent people.
> Yes, people will be upset, too few to see things change. People
> tortured in Guantanamo, Bradley Manning, list goes on... go through
> things which are worse than death.

Which was my point. I don't want to see you guys hurt, even if you treat 
me like shit.

>
>> What's more concerning is that they could back-door Tor, all it
>> takes is to turn one developer around, let anyone know about the
>> back-door and people will loose trust.
> Yes.
>
>> That could kill Tor as well.
> Or people who could help will finally help pushing the deterministic
> build feature. Often a fail finally helps to make a change.

I hope so.