[tor-talk] William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can.

Eugen Leitl eugen at leitl.org
Fri Nov 30 09:44:51 UTC 2012


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From: "Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" <froomkin at law.miami.edu>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:29:46 -0500 (EST)
To: "Naslund, Steve" <SNaslund at medline.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: RE: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if
	you can.
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Reply-To: froomkin at law.tm

On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Naslund, Steve wrote:

[...]
>
> When it comes to running an open access point, I think the legal issue
> would be negligence.  Is it negligence for the 90 year old grandma to
> have an open AP (probably not, just didn't know better)?  Is it
> negligence for me to have an open AP (probably, I am a network
> professional and know how to secure a network).
>

In order for there to be a civil claim of negligence there must be, inter  
alia, a breach of duty.

What duty has been breached in your scenario?  None.

[...]
>
> This is certainly an interesting discussion and I think there are not a
> lot of concrete answers since this is on the edge of technology law.  I

Actually some of us have been teaching and writing about this stuff since  
the mid 1990s.  These issues are far from new; we went through them in the  
early anonymous remailer days.

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