[tor-talk] William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can.

Eugen Leitl eugen at leitl.org
Fri Nov 30 07:24:21 UTC 2012


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From: Jay Ashworth <jra at baylink.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:42:11 -0500 (EST)
To: NANOG <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if
	you can.
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick at ianai.net>

> "Mere conduit" defense. (Please do not anyone mention "common carrier
> status" or the like, ISPs are _not_ common carriers.)

> Do you think if the police found out child pr0n was being served from
> a starbux they wouldn't confiscate the equipment from that store?

Well, pursuant to the "mere conduit" defense, I believe (IANAL) a defensible
case could be made that the (people operating) Tor nodes are not "servers" as
that term is generally understood in the industry, in the same way that web
browser/caches are not "copies" as IP law understands *that* term.

Cheers,
-- jra
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