[tor-talk] William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can.

[Eugen Leitl]

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From: elijah wright <elw at stderr.org>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:38:51 -0600
To: Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org>
Cc: nanog at nanog.org
Subject: Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if
	you can.

We had a guy (aka potential customer) inquire the other day about hosting a
Tor exit on our infrastructure the other day;  he disappeared fairly
quickly when he figured out that we weren't just going to give him an
endless supply of unmetered 10G bandwidth.  I was looking forward to
billing him.  :-)

I'm not sure that armchair lawyering, here, actually helps anyone.  Also,
spel-chek, sequitur.

best,

--e



On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 01:14:08AM +1100, Emily Ozols wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I gotta ask and I'm sure someone would if I didn't, but how do we know
> > this guy is legit?
> > He's jumped up on a forum saying, "Hey, police raided me, help. gib
> > mone plz" and failed to provide and reason as to how he's real and not
> > just making it up.
> >
> > Maybe if there's a way to know this guy is legit, I'll help out if
> > possible, but until then I'm just going to watch others with caution
> > and I suggest others do as well.
>
> This matter is being investigated by the Tor developers.
> It looks legitimate, so far.
>
> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Chris <caldcv at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'm not William and a friend pasted a link on IRC to me. I'm going to
> > > send him a few bucks because I know how it feels to get blindsided by
> > > the police on one random day and your world is turned upside down.
> > >
> > > Source:
> http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/6283/raided-for-running-a-tor-exit-accepting-donations-for-legal-expenses
> > >
> > > From the URL:
> > >
> > > Yes, it happened to me now as well - Yesterday i got raided for
> > > someone sharing child pornography over one of my Tor exits.
> > > I'm good so far, not in jail, but all my computers and hardware have
> > > been confiscated.
> > > (20 computers, 100TB+ storage, My Tablets/Consoles/Phones)
> > >
> > > If convicted i could face up to 6 years in jail, of course i do not
> > > want that and i also want to try to set a legal base for running Tor
> > > exit nodes in Austria or even the EU.
> > >
> > > Sadly we have nothing like the EFF here that could help me in this
> > > case by legal assistance, so i'm on my own and require a good lawyer.
> > > Thus i'm accepting donations for my legal expenses which i expect to
> > > be around 5000-10000 EUR.
> > >
> > > If you can i would appreciate if you could donate a bit (every amount
> > > helps, even the smallest) either by PayPal (any currency is ok):
> > >
> https://paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=2Q4LZNBBD7EH4
> > >
> > > Or by Bank Transfer (EUR only please):
> > >
> > > Holder: William Weber
> > > Bank: EasyBank AG (Vienna, Austria)
> > > Account: 20011351213
> > > Bank sort number: 14200
> > > IBAN: AT031420020011351213
> > > BIC: EASYATW1
> > >
> > > I will try to pay them back when i'm out of this (or even before) but
> > > i can obviously not guarantee this, please keep this in mind.
> > > This money will only be used for legal expenses related to this case.
> > >
> > > If you have any questions or want to donate by another way
> > > (MoneyBookers, Webmoney, Bitcoin, Liberty Reserve, Neteller) feel free
> > > to send me a mail (william at william.si) or a PM, or contact me in LET
> > > IRC.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > William
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > --C
> > >
> > > "The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they're going to
> > > be when you kill them." - Sir William Clayton
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ~Em
> --
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