[tor-talk] Unsigned Mac OS X binary for TorBrowser

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Fabio Pietrosanti (naif):
> On 11/10/12 2:40 AM, andrew at torproject.is wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 06:05:58PM -0500, mfisch at mfisch.com wrote 1.0K bytes in 18 lines about:
>> : TorProject should be registered as an Apple software developer, and the binary should be signed, both to increase credibility of the torproject and the safety of users.
>>
>> No. The last time we reviewed the Apple Developer Agreement it is hostile
>> to Tor as an organization. We at Tor cannot sign Apple's ToS/Agreements
>> to use their systems. You are forced to give up all legal rights to
>> Apple and they have final say. I just tried to view the agreement again,
>> and I cannot do so without a valid ADP account.
>>
>> In discussions with Apple, it comes down the facts that we cannot edit
>> their agreement, and take it or leave it as it is. It's clear developer
>> do not read these agreements, or do not understand them, or don't care
>> because they are distracted by the potential money they can make in
>> the Apple App Store.
>>
>> For legal protection, we may have to create a subsidiary to sign these
>> agreements.
> Just have someone else, with no effective legal authority on Tor
> Project, to sign the ADP agreement and "rent you for free" the account.
> 
> If you want you can register as "me" representing Tor Project (i've no
> relationship with Tor Project Inc), with my personal credit card, in
> clear violation of ADP (i don't care that much).

Not sure if that is legal, what the consequences (probable not too much,
no jail) of that are and if torproject wants to go any non-legal ways.

> Whatever apple would try to do against Tor Project, Apple will have to
> sue me or ask me their rights! :P

Not sure if that would put torproject into a good light either.