[tor-talk] Vidalia Bundle (Tor, Polipo & Vidalia)

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Julian Yon" <julian at yon.org.uk>

> On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:40:05 -0500
> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman at Verizon.Net> wrote:
>
>> I depended upon the Vidalia Bundle which provided Tor and Polipo with
>> the Vidalia GUI.  I don't use "my own copy of Polipo" nor is it my
>> intention to use it with with a Browser.
>
> Sorry? Are you being deliberately obtuse? You can obtain Polipo for
> yourself. I even gave you the URL for the author's site to save you a
> Google search.
>
>> I took advantage of the Tor & Polipo combination where Vidalia
>> managed the connection and setup and ease of editing of configuration
>> files.  Once I ran Vidalia I could use it with Malzilla
>> http://malzilla.sourceforge.net/ (not Mozilla) or with a WGET command
>> line such as...
>
> Ah, I misread that as a play on words. I fail to see what difference it
> makes though. You can still install Polipo and Tor separately and use
> them together. I assume you must have you audited this “Malzilla” to
> ascertain that it's not actually a cunning piece of malware itself.
>
>> WGET  proxy=--execute=http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:8118/
>> c8.uk3.in:5754/kx/uy.exe
>
> As you type wget in caps, can I take it that you're running on Windows?
> You were happy to download and install that Un*x tool but not Polipo?
>
>> Or with any other software that can use a Proxy.  Something that is
>> needed with GeoIP specific sites or sites that memorize and log IP
>> addresses that have already accessed said site.  Getting a new IP was
>> as easy as selecting "New Identity" in Vidalia.  Thus the trio worked
>> symbiotically for the application requirement.
>
> Supplying your own proxy won't stop that button from working. However
> it's worth noting that it doesn't necessarily work as you think:
> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2012-November/026568.html
> Pay attention to Roger's suggested “fix” and remember that he ought to
> know what he's talking about.
>
>> There was no announcement of a change in tor.announce and it should
>> NOT be assumed that we read https://blog.torproject.org/blog .  I am
>> not the only one who uses (has used) the traditional Vidalia Bundle
>> in the fashion I described.
>
> So, to get this straight, you're angry because the free (as in
> both speech and beer) software you use no longer bundles another piece
> of free software, which you can very easily obtain directly but are
> too lazy to do so. You think that's reason to make rude proclamations
> in CAPS about what should NOT be assumed? If you think this is
> something that the project ought to still be providing, why don't you
> volunteer to maintain the bundle? I'm pretty certain that's a better
> use of your energy than shouting at people and shows a lot more
> gratitude for the significant amount of time, effort and money that
> goes into providing you those free anonymous IPs.
>
> Julian
>

I'm sorry, I am done with this conversation with you.

-- 
Dave
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