[tor-talk] Tor Exit Node Operator Raided in USA.

Fabian Keil freebsd-listen at fabiankeil.de
Sat Sep 3 12:28:04 UTC 2011


Martin Fick <mogulguy at yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- On Wed, 8/31/11, Fabian Keil <freebsd-listen at fabiankeil.de> wrote:
> > Martin Fick <mogulguy at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > --- On Mon, 8/29/11, Matthew <pumpkin at cotse.net>
> > wrote:
> > > > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/08/why-ip-addresses-alone-dont-identify-criminals
> > > >
> > > >     
> > > > If you run an exit relay, consider operating it in a 
> > > > Tor-friendly commercial facility instead of your home 
> > > > to make it less likely that law enforcement agents will 
> > > > show up at your door.
> > > 
> > > Hmm, I am surprised by the EFFs advice here. 
> > > 
> > > It it is legal as they claim, shouldn't they be 
> > > heralding us to run an exit node at home and not
> > > be intimidated by ignorant law enforcement?  And
> > > that they will help defend us in case of an 
> > > issue?  
> > > 
> > > After all, they are recommending open wireless
> > > access points from individuals:
> > > 
> > > http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/04/open-wireless-movement
> > 
> > I think getting raided due to running a Tor exit node at
> > home (or even remotely) is a lot more likely than getting
> > raided due to running an open wireless access point.
> 
> Tell that to this guy:
> 
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/24/unsecured-wifi-child-pornography-innocent_n_852996.html
> 
> That raid sounds worse than any tor related raid I have 
> read about in any country,

Sure, but I see no reason to believe that the fact that
the offending requests were (supposedly) made through an
open WAP instead of a Tor exit node made a difference.

The country probably did, though.

Given that there are (probably) a lot more open WAPs than
there are Tor exit nodes and that open WAPs can't be easily
abused from other parts of the world, the risks still seem
a lot lower to me.

Fabian
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