Mitar mmitar at
Wed Jan 12 23:24:42 UTC 2011


On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Moritz Bartl <moritz at> wrote:
> Most complaints you will have to deal with can be easily solved by
> telling them about Tor. In extreme cases, the police might come knocking
> to your door or even try to seize your equipment, but I am only aware of
> a single case in Germany where that happened some years ago.

In Slovenia for our Tor node (currently down) we have very nice ISP
which said that they do not mind anything until we are paying our
bills. But we had two visits of police to our doors early in the
morning (once for blackmailing and once for pedophilia). Once we
explained to them that the IP is of Tor server and that there are not
logs they said OK and that was it. The problem is probably that the
server is registered on a physical person so once they see the name
they assume that this is some home user. But once you explain to them
that this is a server on collocation and not even at your home and
what Tor is and how it works. Then their assumption that you as a home
user is a probable suspect changes to that you are an admin of a
server and in this way probably just a witness. And once you tell them
that you cannot witness anything (you do not have logs) this is it (if
they believe you, but there are not much reasons for them not to -
they would have to have also some other signs to get a warrant).

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