[tor-talk] reddit.com wants EFF to disable HTTPS???

Mike Perry mikeperry at fscked.org
Sun Aug 7 07:41:03 UTC 2011


Thus spake grarpamp (grarpamp at gmail.com):

> > The bug is that its probably overloading their site, and/or pushing
> > traffic onto very expensive specialized hosting.
> >
> >> Removing/Disabling the whole site (when it is working) goes against
> >> all the principles that EFF stands for. Unless it doesn't work it
> >> should not be removed.
> >
> > I think this position is silly. If HTTPS everywhere says no to
> > reddit's request, the site will just make it not work.
> 
> How does HTTPSE stack up against the various illegal
> access/use of computer/resource laws. After all, the sites may
> not intend for that to be the general access method. Of course
> HTTPSE is just an agnostic tool and the user would be
> to blame. But it does strike rather silly that a site would
> complain when they enable HTTPS over whatever portions
> of their site they chose... and a user uses it as such. Oh wait,
> that's the 'he said she said' illegal access thing again :)

Speaking as one of N authors of this addon**, my stance is:
"Lolwut? Sounds liek g8 PR 4 U. I tink u shud soo every1 U can!"*

* Note1: I have no direct affiliation with the EFF. I'm sure the 
official legal opinion on this matter is slightly more nuanced. I'm
guessing it balances on the fact that the EFF is acting as a publisher
of rules that others submit and does not exercise editorial control.
I've personally argued that the addon should provide an arbitary
subscription model to avoid editorial liability entirely, but
apprently this is not necessary?

** Note2: I do not review rules, and I did not write this particular
rule.

P.S. HTTPS-Everywhere seems to only ship with a subset of reddit rules
enforced by default. Is this the "wrong" subset? Why is is "our"
responsibility to determine the "right" subset? Can't u jis fix ur
shit, reddit?


-- 
Mike Perry
Mad Computer Scientist
fscked.org evil labs
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