Tor network connections constantly building / failing

Joe Btfsplk joebtfsplk at gmx.com
Thu Oct 14 18:43:34 UTC 2010


  Thanks Justin,
> AFAIK, the seul.org archives are updated pretty much immediately. 
> There have been cases where the archive thread will show up before a 
> post will show up in my inbox.
I now see that some? posts (even for most recent reply date) don't seem 
to be in perfect date order.  Not sure.  Seems some w/ earlier dates are 
higher on list than some w/ later dates - even looking at the most 
recent reply date to that OP.  Maybe I'm not seeing something showing a 
date really is later than another post's.  Dunno.  Looked at one post at 
top of list, & every reply - * seemed *  all dates were older than this 
post & replies (which are a ways down from top).

The Vidalia 0.2.2.17a pkg seems to be working OK for me ( in & of 
itself).  Don't think any better speed-wise (for some things) than * 
when prev. ver. was working correctly * - but will have added security / 
bug fixes.  Maybe the older ver on my PC had a corrupted file.

I tested d/l speed of * a * file w/ Vidalia 0.2.2.17a - seems fine.  But 
- for now - some pages seem to load much slower than before (approx same 
time as d/l speed of test file showed OK).  Not sure why.  Will continue 
to monitor.

On 10/14/2010 10:47 AM, Justin Aplin wrote:
> On Oct 14, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Joe Btfsplk wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mike,
>> Question:  I'm new at this mailing list.  Instructions were to post 
>> comments / quest. to:  or-talk at seul.org.  But replies to my quest. 
>> come from or-talk at freehaven.net.
>> Which address should I send ORIGINAL posts to & which for REPLIES to 
>> others' replies?
>
> Welcome! Both original posts and replies can be sent to either 
> address, they'll both go out to the list. When sending mail to either 
> address, or-talk at freehaven.net gets added to the "Reply-To" header, so 
> I suppose for ease of separation you could consider or-talk at seul.org 
> to be your OP address and or-talk at freehaven.net to be your Reply 
> address. This isn't necessary, however, as plenty of OPs come in 
> through or-talk at freehaven.net.
>
>> Q2:  For * current * topics, is there way or site to view discussions 
>> - before they show on the archives site?  Not sure if all discussions 
>> wind up on archives site & how long takes.
>
> AFAIK, the seul.org archives are updated pretty much immediately. 
> There have been cases where the archive thread will show up before a 
> post will show up in my inbox.
>
>> Re: Your questions:  Have home ADSL conn (non static IP). Direct / 
>> dry loop DSL w/ AT&T - U.S. - TX.  Unless they JUST changed how they 
>> treat Tor connections, probably not the ISP (tho not out of question).
>>
>> Just d/l & installed Vidalia 0.2.2.17a.  Have VERY limited testing w/ 
>> it so far, but the constant, RAPID building / failing of new 
>> connections seems to have stopped - for the moment.  Will do further 
>> testing.  I haven't tried other connections / open wifi.
>
> Let us know what you see.
>
>> Could just be temporary Tor network conditions, but before AND after 
>> installing Vidalia 0.2.2.17a, many pages now loading quite slowly vs 
>> same pgs in past months (comparing loading same pages on many diff 
>> days of wk & time of day).  Only diff on computer is upgrading to 
>> Firefox 3.6.10.  My non Tor DSL speeds are still good.
>
> Tor speeds for me fluctuate wildly depending on the time of day, phase 
> of the moon, will of the gods, etc. Let us know if this is constant 
> after the further testing you mentioned above.
>
> ~Justin Aplin
>
>>
>> On 10/13/2010 4:55 PM, Mike Perry wrote:
>>> Thus spake Joe Btfsplk (joebtfsplk at gmx.com):
>>>
>>>>  What I'm seeing is completely ABnormal from what I've seen for 1 - 2
>>>> yrs, over several Tor / Vidalia versions.  I often looked at network
>>>> maps - was never like this.
>>>>
>>>> 1)  What I described about connections constantly (RAPID fire - 
>>>> dozens,
>>>> one after another) building, then immediately after 90% of connections
>>>> 1st pop up - showing "building" - they immediately fail.  Problem 
>>>> is, so
>>>> many fail so quickly (in seconds), fair amount of time, there aren't 3
>>>> good (open, stable) connections.  Therefore, d/l seems to drop to zero
>>>> during that time.
>>>>
>>>> 2) ** Currently, this behavior does NOT "level off."  It continues as
>>>> long a Tor / Polipo are running (even a day or more).  Regardless, in
>>>> past if I ran Tor for 1 hr, I NEVER saw anything close to this.  I 
>>>> don't
>>>> leave Tor running (for normal browsing) for days at a time.  Never 
>>>> have.
>>>>
>>>> 3) Now, my speeds never pick up (for any length of time).
>>> Your ISP may be blocking connections to the Tor network. What type of
>>> internet connection is this? Work/school/library/home? What country
>>> are you in? Have you tried other networks/open wifi to see if you get
>>> the same result?
>>>
>>>
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