Need for sane ISP's?

grarpamp grarpamp at gmail.com
Mon Jan 25 11:56:36 UTC 2010


Hi. In regard to the current general discussion regarding Tor
operators who are getting disconnected for DMCA reports, etc...

Is there a need for a 'by the books' ISP/hoster based in the USA?

By 'by the books' (btb), I mean... one who isn't just going to kill
your node, blog, files, etc... because someone complained and the
ISP doesn't happen to like complaints or you... but will just claim
common carrier immunity as provided for in usa law. Note that, in
the usa, this generally means that if the subscriber does not step
up to deal with the issue, that the isp is then forced to act to
avoid becoming a conspirator or facilitator... often due to legal
verbage in their contracts leading all the way back to the Tier-1's.
Except I'm curious to get a handle on whether even that is the real
world case... ie: the provider continuing to claim immunity even
if the subscriber fails to stand or be reachable vs. the isp losing
their pipe because of it.

But overall, is there a need for a usa ISP who won't kneel to silly
inquiries unless the law requires them to do so. And certainly won't
do it because they take some lame moral sides to whatever the issue
of the day is. aka: btb.

Having one in the usa may not be good in relation to DMCA issues
but surely also may be good for foreign entities to safely host
what wouldn't be welcome in their own country. But would surely be
ok as free speech in the usa.

And other variations on this theme. Discussion as to such need?
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