Google and Tor.

Matthew pumpkin at
Wed Aug 25 15:31:32 UTC 2010

On 25/08/10 15:38, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Matthew<pumpkin at>  wrote:
>> On numerous occasions when using Google with Tor (yes, I know there are
>> other options like Scroogle) it claims I might be sending automated queries
>> and gives me a CAPTCHA.  Sometimes this allows me to search; other times I
>> am caught in a loop and am constantly send back to the CAPTCHA screen.
>> I am wondering why Google does not deal with this.  I can understand that if
>> dozens of people are using the same IP then some sites think "zombies" are
>> being used.  But if the IP is a Tor node then this is not the case.  Google
>> could surely exclude these Tor IPs.
>> So my question is: why don't they?  What are the politics behind their
>> decision not to acknowledge Tor exit nodes as bona fide?
> Really?  This isn't obvious?
Would I have asked if it was obvious?
> People are running automated datamining queries _via tor_ in order to
> gain control of more IPs and avoid being blocked.
What is a datamining query exactly?  Is this what I would call "typing some 
text into the search box and pressing enter"?  And how does entering a 
datamining query allow one to gain control of more IPs?  And being blocked 
- from what?  Totally confused.
> Even if they weren't, they'd certainly start if Google exempted tor exits.

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