Timo Schoeler timo.schoeler at riscworks.net
Thu Jun 18 09:57:48 UTC 2009

>>>> I've used to run a Tor exit with Hetzner a couple years ago,
>>>> which resulted in several tet-a-tetes with the local (Bavaria)
>>>> police.
>>>> I don't think Hetzner will give a damn if you're running a
>>>> middleman. Especially if it's throttled, so you're not making
>>>> them lose money on you.
>>> That's also my opinion. We also ran an exit node at Hetzner which
>>> lead to
>> several discussions with their abuse people. One time the server
>> simply was shut down and it took me days and much discussion to
>> bring them to activate the network again.
>>> They have been very uncooperative all the time. As a consequence,
>>> we moved our
>> services away from Hetzner.
>>> Bernhard
>> All other ISPs (in Germany) will behave exactly the same way due to
>> suppression from the state...
>> Timo
> Note how that even after multiple abuse shutdowns, much discussion,
> eventual reactivation (thereby indicating that they understood that
> the alleged abuse did not originate from the customer), and a history
> of uncooperative behavior on their part: they still pretend that they
> have never heard of Tor.
> It looks like they just want people to waste time and energy
> explaining it to them. They hope that if it becomes too much trouble
> for you, maybe you will choose another provider.

Maybe that this is the normal 'modus operandi'. There's lusers and geeks 
running TOR -- those get into that mode.


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