relay tidbits...

[luser]

Scott Bennett wrote:
>      On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 16:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Curious Kid
> <letsshareinformation at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: luser <luser456 at googlemail.com>
>>> To: or-talk at freehaven.net
>>> Sent: Monday, June 2, 2008 3:12:16 AM
>>> Subject: Re: relay tidbits...
>>>
>>> If I believe that the majority of POP3 traffic over tor is performed by
>>> unauthorised parties,
>>> ----- End Original Message ----
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you, in fact, believe this? If so, why?
>>>
>>> In addition to actively outing accounts that you believe have a good 
>>> chance of being used in an unauthorized fashion, you also flag accounts 
>>> that are being used in accordance with the server operator's policies. 
>>> That by itself convinces me that leaking user data does harm.
>> is publishing the mail server IP address and username 'outing' user data?
>> would just the mail server IP address be better?
>>
>>> I would very much like to know if there are other reasons for doing this 
>>> that you have yet to let on. Is there an underlying purpose or 
>>> overarching concern you have other than simply making the proposal of a 
>>> moral obligation to help others?
>> i just believe ,at least i think I do - running the relay was a chance 
>> for me to determine the morality for myself, that to participate in a 
>> system such as tor, whose purpose is so specific, and not to think and 
>> raise questions about what maintaining a relay means and the 
>> possibilities for helping the victims of these potential abuses, seem at 
>> the moment to not be fulfilling a basic obligation to your fellow man.
> 
>      Why do you think that helping to preserve a basic human right, such
> as privacy, which is violated by most governments on the planet, not to
> mention other criminal entities, is potentially "immoral"?  Just who the
> hell do you think you are anyway?

there really is no need for that.
i was simply expressing my opinion.
the blog and relay have been removed and i've tried to explain my views 
as best i can.
i suggest this is the end of it.

>> of course not all tor traffic is miscreant in nature and I recognise 
>> strongly the need for freedom of speech.
>>
>      It surely does *not* sound like you give much thought to other
> people's rights at all.  Maybe "Curious Kid", rather than "Thoughtful,
> Responsible Adult" is a totally appropriate moniker.
> 
> 
>                                   Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG
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