Tor operator raided in Finland

Matthew MacGregor umgregor at globalnet.co.uk
Mon Jan 28 19:10:09 UTC 2008


I have no knowledge of the fact, but is there not some provision in the laws 
of any countries with these crypto laws to deal with the, "I forgot" 
defense. Because I can see every single person being asked for their 
passphrase to use this defense. Hell, I know I would...

--- Matthew

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "F. Fox" <kitsune.or at gmail.com>
To: <or-talk at freehaven.net>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: Tor operator raided in Finland


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> dr._no at cool.ms wrote:
> (snip)
>> If someone would ask me for a password, i would spam, tell wrong
>> passwords, to waste his time, which could be used to ask others for
>> passwords ;-)
> (snip)
>
> If the authorities tried to get encryption passphrases out of me - and I
> didn't want them to have them - I would go for the "I forgot"
> alternative. They are pretty huge, after all.
>
> I just don't trust the state of the law, as for trying to group not
> divulging passphrases with the 5th Amendment and similar laws. There's a
> good chance, IMO, it'll end up being put with the 4th and not the 5th,
> unfortunately.
>
> My passphrasses are humongous, so it's quite plausible that they could
> be forgotten. It's happened before...
>
> - --
> F. Fox: A+, Network+, Security+
> Owner of Tor node "kitsune"
> http://fenrisfox.livejournal.com
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