Tor operator raided in Finland

Andrew tor at
Sun Jan 27 14:21:34 UTC 2008

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Florian Reitmeir wrote:
|> And i'm using two dozens of IP numbers in the headers of my 
transparent proxy, so
|> it's neither easy nor sure to find the IP number of my internet 
|> Another point is that logging has several flaws: The provider proxies 
do have
|> thousands of connections per second, but the clocks of the computers 
have an
|> accuracy of about one minute. So without connection tracking, e. g. 
with cookies,
|> digging in the log data yields unsure results, especially with 
dynamic IPs.
| i'm really not sure what kind of gras you are smoking, but nearly all 
| you send just do not contain the truth.
| people alread told you, that _all_ your
| - many ip addresses
| - ip address changes
| - proxies ..
| are _useless_, and will not hide your account from your provider or the
| police.
Hey, let's try not to tear each other to shreds here, we're all on the 
same team.

And btw, noone ever claimed that a provider proxy would hide your 
identity from anyone. It's just one more step law enforcement has to go 
to get to you, or at least a little more money they have to spend. 
Digging through logs can be very time- and ressource-consuming.

And I disagree on your view about the use of (non-provider) proxies in 
general to route your tor exit traffic through. As "dr no" pointed out, 
many sites log only the IP address, not any Forwarded-For or similar 
headers. So while those proxies cannot be *trusted* to provide any level 
of obscurity or anonymity, they *might* with luck proove to be a dead 
end (or at least a serious obstacle) for investigations. Especially if 
they are in another country.
Again, just to make sure noone misunderstands it: none of this provides 
any security (for the tor node operator) for certain. But it decreases 
your chances to get harrassed by law enforcement. Maybe just slightly, 
but it does.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

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