New Tor distribution for testing: Tor Browser Bundle

Silivrenion silivrenion at gmail.com
Mon Feb 4 04:36:04 UTC 2008


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I have to disagree with setting any options by default like that. The
concept behind PortableTor as I wrote it was to let the end user have the
right to decide what to do.. don't force anything on them! I think this
concept should be relevant to all bundles.. don't force users to become
nodes, because you have those out there that possibly don't want to be,
plus in my opinion it hurts the usefulness of the package to have that
automatically on.

As someone mentioned earlier, a portable tor approach is useful for the
client, not necessarily the server end. You can cause a lot of server
identity problems if you log on as a tor server just to check your email
for 5 minutes.

Let the end user decide what they want their software to do.

On a more positive note, congrats on bringing up a new system :)

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Steve Morley
http://silivrenion.com
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On Feb 3, 2008 9:34 PM, Steven J. Murdoch <
tortalk+Steven.Murdoch at cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 10:19:54PM +0100, Michael Schmidt wrote:
> > Steven, i suggest to make it hardcoded default and a Must, that each
> user,
> > using this browser, is as well running an tor **exit** node,
> > tit for tat. like emule partials: upload is a MUST.
>
> I don't think this is likely in the near future. One of the important
> target classes of users is people who are at risk of persecution by
> their government and want to keep a low profile. Many of these users
> are also not fully computer literate and there may not be fully
> translated Tor documentation in their language.
>
> The goals of the bundle include being easy to set up and to leave
> limited traces (both are still being worked on). In this scenario, to
> broadcast the fact that someone is using Tor is in my opinion an
> unacceptable risk. There would need to be some way to protect these
> users before mandatory server operation is the standard.
>
> Steven.
>
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> w: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/sjm217/
>
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