zero-knowledge protocols
Rochester TOR Admin
onionroutor at gmail.com
Mon Apr 14 17:54:27 UTC 2008
Damn - that IS a much better example. I knew when I used PETA it was
going to set off the Bad Example Alert again! :)
ROC Tor Admin
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:25 AM, Scott Bennett <bennett at cs.niu.edu> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:05:07 -0400 "Rochester TOR Admin"
> <onionroutor at gmail.com> wrote:
> >I'm having a hard time understanding a lot of what you're saying but I
>
> >think I understand the goal which is specifically to root out
>
> >terrorists in this case to help investigators find terrorists. You can
> >refer to Roger's link above as to why Tor will never do that.
> >
> >> > 2) Or about a system which allows investigators to answer their questions
> >> > without shutting the Tor node down and confiscating the hardware?
> >>
> >> Zero-knowledge software should complement tor so to let the server
> >> administrators establish that the investigators are those who pretend to be,
> >> are behind a real case and are legally empowered to probe this or that.
> >
>
> >So, if you decide that an investigation is illegal, are you knowingly
> >going to withhold the information to grant them access to the server?
>
> >In most jurisdictions [especially those that would be most likely be
> >in this situation], it is illegal to do this and you would be forced
> >to provide access to the server either way.
> >
> >Even so, from a larger view, you would not want a tor administrator to
> >be put in the situation of choosing when he or she should allow an
> >investigator to access their server. For example, I decide to grant
> >police access when they are searching for a pedophile and not when
> >searching for an oppressed citizen in china but what about a person
> >that is in the grey like a white hat hacker or PETA activist that are
> >doing things illegal but not unethical in the eyes of the admin?
> >
> Bzzzt!! Bad example alert: PETA is to ALF what Sinn Fein is to
> the IRA. Supposedly, it would be the other way around, i.e., PETA and
> Sinn Fein (allegedly) avoid illegal activity themselves, but provide
> above-ground propaganda to the world regarding their respective
> terrorist sister organizations, which *do* act illegally. Some tor
> server operators may privately agree with the terrorist activities,
> though I would sincerely hope that they are in the tiniest minority.
>
>
> Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG
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