Some legal trouble with TOR in France +

Ringo Kamens 2600denver at
Mon May 15 23:02:02 UTC 2006

In addition, censoring child porn, death threats, etc. is impossible and
you're dedicating yourself to a job that you will have to do 24/7 and never
finish. You block a site, they make a new one. You block a file hash, they
modify a file. You block a keyword, they use encryption. You block message
topics, they use stenography. The line has been drawn and needs to continue
to be drawn at:
No Censorship
You can't say that stopping child porn isn't censorship. You might want to
censor child porn because it's bad for society. Under the same logic, you
can censor profanities. Then it goes further, people want to censor "radical
views" as is happening with terrorism because it's bad for society, then it
goes to censoring conversation topics, political views, and BAM you live in
a police state.

On 5/15/06, Ben Wilhelm <zorba at> wrote:
> crackedactor at wrote:
> > Ok so they will come back with more than just child porn... thats when
> we have to draw the line!
> "Yeah, so we disabled child porn like you asked, but we're not willing
> to do anything about piracy, death threats to government officials,
> cybercrime, or that mob ring running all their communications through
> our system. Yeah yeah, I know, the mob ring is responsible for the death
> of a dozen officers. Can't do anything. Well, I mean, we could,
> obviously. But we don't want to. Sorry! Let me know if you find any more
> child porn sites though!"
> That will go over *real* well.
> The line is drawn. The line is that Tor does not censor. That's the only
> line that makes sense, because everything else requires subjective
> judgement that many would not be able to agree on.
> If you don't want your internet connection to be used anonymously, for
> *anything*, then don't run a Tor exit node. It's impossible to block
> subjects on a case-by-case basis anyway - the exact thing Tor was built
> to prove! - and I'd rather not waste our coders' time on that.
> -Ben
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