Some legal trouble with TOR in France

Lionel Elie Mamane lionel at
Sun May 14 16:52:43 UTC 2006

On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 02:59:52PM +0100, Dave Page wrote:
> On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 03:58:06PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
>> On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 02:32:50PM +0100, Dave Page wrote:

>>> Under the British "Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act", they
>>> would simply confiscate the entire machine, demand any
>>> authentication tokens required to access it, and lock you up if
>>> you refused to surrender them.  I believe similar laws exist in
>>> most EU jurisdictions now.

>> Tony's point was that you could arrange not to have the
>> authentication tokens anymore. You better hope they believe you
>> when you say you don't have it, though.

> Not having the authentication tokens counts as refusing to surrender
> them.

That's preposterous. What *might* count is wilfully destroying them on
suspecting they will ask them. Simply not having them? Won't stand in
any reasonable court. Else they could ask *me* for *your* keys. I
don't have them. And put me in jail?


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