"SHTTPD": Windows web-server, light-weight, stand-alone and multi-platform (Unix, etc)

Watson Ladd watsonbladd at gmail.com
Fri Jun 9 01:01:23 UTC 2006


THE THREAD IS CLOSED.
On Jun 8, 2006, at 8:43 PM, Tony wrote:

> Hi,
>
> What has Code Red to do with this? That was a different webserver
> version on a different operating system (IIS5 on Windows 2000 and
> earlier). I was recommending the option of IIS6 for those running
> Windows server 2003. I remind you that the worst worm infestation  
> in the
> history of the internet was actually on UNIX based systems as the  
> 'Great
> Worm' of 1988... Should we avoid using Linux because of that?
>
> Microsoft current OS's are certainly not perfect but they are much
> improved as regards security from previous versions. If you check  
> recent
> defacement statistics or the recent report on the subject from Mi2g  
> you
> will see that the most commonly hacked server OS platform on the
> internet is currently systems based on Linux by a very wide and  
> growing
> margin, even allowing for the fact that there are currently more Linux
> based servers out there.
>
> As regards the source code comment - I cant recall anyone being  
> sued as
> you describe anywhere, ever,  except where the person concerned was an
> ex-employee of the company in question. Perhaps you could provide a  
> few
> examples?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-or-talk at freehaven.net [mailto:owner-or-talk at freehaven.net]
> On Behalf Of Watson Ladd
> Sent: 09 June 2006 00:08
> To: or-talk at freehaven.net
> Subject: Re: "SHTTPD": Windows web-server, light-weight, stand- 
> alone and
> multi-platform (Unix, etc)
>
> And so Code Red never existed?
> On Jun 8, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Tony wrote:
>
>> That is simply not true - many people can check and review the
>> source code for Microsoft products. You just have to be licenced
>> and have a valid reason to do so. e.g. the Chinese government did
>> so to check for backdoors, etc., and so have many others including
>> many software developers.
>>
>> See http://www.microsoft.com/resources/sharedsource/Licensing/
>> default.mspx
> And never work on GPL code ever again because a lawsuit might be
> made. This is why open source projects should create shell
> corporations that own all the code: When a lawsuit comes, declare
> bankruptcy, give them the rights to the code. Then fork off another
> project and repeat. When they come after you, point out that the
> previous owners waived the rights to prevent a fork.
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: owner-or-talk at freehaven.net on behalf of Kenneth Loafman
>> Sent: Thu 08/06/2006 14:05
>> To: or-talk at freehaven.net
>> Subject: Re: "SHTTPD": Windows web-server, light-weight, stand-
>> alone and multi-platform (Unix, etc)
>>
>>
>>
>> The other freedom that they don't mention is freedom from backdoors.
>> Since no one can see the MS code and verify that it is free from
>> government intrusion, there is good reason not to use it in an
>> environment where such government intrusion could be detrimental.
>>
>> ...Ken
>>
>> Tony wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If you have already paid to use Windows server, then it is
>>> effectively a 'free product'. However you need to be specially
>>> licensed to see the source code.
>>>
>>> You also get IIS5 with XP, but I would not recommend using that as
>>> it is not as secure.
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: owner-or-talk at freehaven.net on behalf of Anothony Georgeo
>>> Sent: Thu 08/06/2006 12:02
>>> To: or-talk at freehaven.net
>>> Subject: RE: "SHTTPD": Windows web-server, light-weight, stand-
>>> alone and multi-platform (Unix, etc)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Tony <Tony at tdrmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Windows Server 2003 already comes with IIS6
>>>
>>> The Tor team wants 'free software' not Microsoft
>>> products.
>>>
>>> Access to source code and ability to modifity source
>>> code is one of the main legs of 'free software' and
>>> not allowed by Microsoft.
>>>
>>> Please read this page for a great definition of 'free
>>> software':
>>> <http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html>
>>>
>>>> From the site:
>>> ---
>>> Free software is a matter of the users' freedom to
>>> run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve
>>> the software. More precisely, it refers to four
>>> kinds of freedom, for the users of the software:
>>>
>>> * The freedom to run the program, for any purpose
>>> (freedom 0).
>>>
>>> * The freedom to study how the program works, and
>>> adapt it to your needs (freedom 1). Access to the
>>> source code is a precondition for this.
>>>
>>> * The freedom to redistribute copies so you can
>>> help your neighbor (freedom 2).
>>>
>>> * The freedom to improve the program, and release
>>> your improvements to the public, so that the
>>> whole community benefits (freedom 3). Access to
>>> the source code is a precondition for this.
>>> ---
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> <winmail.dat>
>
> Sincerely,
> Watson Ladd
> ---
> "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
> Temporary Safety deserve neither  Liberty nor Safety."
> -- Benjamin Franklin 
>
>

Sincerely,
Watson Ladd
---
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little  
Temporary Safety deserve neither  Liberty nor Safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin 


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