Not so fast torpark doesnt have privoxy? Re: Torpark if firefox already on computer

loki tiwaz loki_tiwaz at hotmail.com
Sun Nov 6 04:47:57 UTC 2005


i was going to make a post in exactly the vein of this one - privoxy is 
still needed. I have become very used to not ever seeing ads  and knowing 
that advertising is gaining absolutely zero information from their 
advertising, and webservers are getting nothing potentially identifying from 
the http headers.

My only gripe at this point with all of this is the DNS issue. Could it not 
be resolved permanently by adding a dns proxy into tor so that if a program 
does not use the proxied resolve it is diverted through tor anyway? If this 
were done there would be no more issues with the completeness of the defense 
against traffic analysis.

I have given up using firefox in disgust in part because of compilation 
issues and stability and memory consumption and security problems in favour 
of opera, and i am reticent about switching back because the combination of 
a hierarchic notepad, email client, irc client and the neat (could be better 
but is the best i've used) configurable paned interface is extremely hard to 
beat. (i could ask for more but being that i'm an imcompetent coder, at this 
point there is little i can really do about it)

>From: tor <tor at algae-world.com>
>Reply-To: or-talk at freehaven.net
>To: or-talk at freehaven.net
>Subject: Not so fast torpark doesnt have privoxy?  Re: Torpark if firefox 
>already on computer
>Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 10:47:04 -0800
>
>Arrakistor wrote:
>
>>Torpark  is  great  on the DNS issue. This was one of the main reasons
>>for creating it.
>>
>>Torpark has incorporated versions of Firefox which have internal SOCKS
>>proxies,  and are capable of remote dns functions, so there is no need
>>for privoxy. Essentially the browser can loopback all the data through
>>
>>
>hmm I think we need to take a step back here and look at what privoxy does 
>to the datastream that
>the browser doesnt do or does incorrectly. Privoxy actively modifies the 
>bitstream to keep ads ,
>window opens and other things you may not want happening in your browser.. 
>not simply http
>to SOCKS4a or 5. It strips these before the more complex and vunerable 
>browser ever sees them.
>It also strips browser identifying information from the outgoing bitstream. 
>I am sure other here could give
>more complete synopsis of privoxy and its effects on the http1.1 protocol 
>but as far as I know getting rid of privoxy
>is not a gain its a loss of anonymity and privacy.
>
>you may want to think about this quite carefully before running torpark in 
>the configuration discussed here
>or compare results when using a site like this:
>
>http://www.anonymizer.com  click on the Free Privacy test link and see what 
>both systems report
>
>keep in mind that privoxy strips advertisements and can be configured to 
>lie to the inquiring website about
>all sorts of details.
>
>Privoxy is the "/Privacy Enhancing Proxy/".  from the privoxyFAQ
>
>    *
>
>      Web page content filtering (removes banners based on size,
>      invisible "web-bugs", JavaScript and HTML annoyances, pop-up
>      windows, etc.)
>
>    *
>
>      Modularized configuration that allows for standard settings and
>      user settings to reside in separate files, so that installing
>      updated actions files won't overwrite individual user settings.
>
>    *
>
>      Support for Perl Compatible Regular Expressions in the
>      configuration files, and generally a more sophisticated and
>      flexible configuration syntax over previous versions.
>
>    *
>
>      Improved cookie management features (e.g. session based cookies).
>
>    *
>
>      GIF de-animation.
>
>    *
>
>      Bypass many click-tracking scripts (avoids script redirection).
>
>    *
>
>      Multi-threaded (POSIX and native threads).
>
>    *
>
>      User-customizable HTML templates for all proxy-generated pages
>      (e.g. "blocked" page).
>
>    *
>
>      Every feature now controllable on a per-site or per-location basis.
>
>
>
>
>      regards
>      A tor operator

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