(FWD) Re: BitTorrent - can it be blocked?

Roger Dingledine arma at mit.edu
Wed Dec 8 11:58:14 UTC 2004


[Forwarding to the list since Anna sent it from an address that isn't
subscribed. -RD]

As to the legal questions, our lawyers are drafting a response to this
issue. In the meantime, I suggest you do whatever is necessary to stay
on good terms with your ISP (switching to middleman node, taking the node
down temporarily, etc if they want you to), since that's always useful.

Thanks,
--Roger

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 23:13:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Anna Shubina <ashubina at cs.dartmouth.edu>
To: or-talk at freehaven.net
Subject: Re: BitTorrent - can it be blocked?

Hello all,

As I already informed Roger, I just had to shut down the althing node
(althing.cs.dartmouth.edu), possibly permanently, precisely due to a DMCA
notice claiming that I served "Chronicles of Riddick" - the authorities
here would not agree to selective blocking and are asking for some legal
statement saying that continued operation of the node will render neither
college, nor the lab and its sponsors liable for future DMCA violations.

Yes, I do believe mine was a real notice.

This makes me wonder. The coincidence in the accusation suggests that this
is not an accident. The date on the notice I was quoted claims that the
download happened late night/early morning on 30 Nov 2004. If we are
talking the same statement here, one has to wonder where and whom they are
watching and whom they are trying to scare. (Did we finally meet a global
adversary who is able to watch traffic all over the web?)

I would very much appreciate some legal help - anything to convince the
people in charge that they will not be held liable.

Thanks, and good luck to everybody,


Anna

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004, Hideki Saito wrote:

> Was it real MPAA warning?
> 
> I've received one of phishing E-mail claiming MPAA before...
> 
> 
> On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:28:31 -0500 (EST), Quentin Smith
> <quentins at comclub.org> wrote:
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> > Hi-
> > 
> > I came home today to find a rather unpleasant e-mail sitting in my inbox.
> > It was a DMCA Complaint from the MPAA, for "CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK, THE". I
> > scratched my head for a few minutes, trying to figure out if I had
> > downloaded that movie on my server. I was really quite sure that I hadn't
> > downloaded it, or any movies at all. I wondered if they might have
> > misidentified a legitimate torrent. Then it dawned on me - with the recent
> > talk about BitTorrent over tor, it probably was someone using BitTorrent
> > over tor.  I've temporarily changed my configuration to ExitPolicy reject
> > *:*, until I can figure out a more precise way of blocking BitTorrent.
> > 
> > I'd very much like to continue running a tor server, but I can't afford to
> > do it if I'm going to receive DMCA Takedown notices.
> > 
> > Has anyone else had this problem? Any suggestions?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > - --Quentin
> > 
> > Quentin Smith - http://www.comclub.org/~quentins/about
> > ComClub International - http://www.comclub.org/
> > quentins at comclub.org
> > qesmith at lacademy.edu
> > 
> > As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be
> > glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and
> > this we should do freely and generously.
> > - - Benjamin Franklin
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