[tor-relays] AirTor/ATOR continues to pester Tor relay operators, promising donations

Bauruine torcontact at tuxli.ch
Fri Mar 17 16:25:10 UTC 2023


 From what I read it looks like they plan to create some blockchain that 
uses "Proof-of-relaying-Tor-traffic" as an alternative to Proof of Work 
or Proof of Stake. From their blog "rather than requiring complex 
off-chain verification or arbitrary computation to prevent bad actors 
receiving fees, Proof-of-Uptime verifies on useful activity." Supposedly 
to give some incentives to run Tor relays because you get "recognition 
rewards" I guess some shitcoin. Not sure what those are for but I'll 
just keep "mining" consensus weight. Because you don't need a modified 
version of Tor and you don't need the blockchain for that. Just download 
the consensus and look at the consensus weight and you have your proof 
of uptime and relaying.

On 17.03.23 15:22, Leon D wrote:

> So they’re just a cryptocurrency mining company? I’m not 100% sure how 
> they are able to use Tor Relays to mine Cryptocurrency?
>
> On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 at 11:53, Richie <richie at zuviel.org> wrote:
>
>     ator.org <http://ator.org> actually works. They try to get Relay
>     Operators to mine/receive
>     their cryptocurrency through uptime, see https://docs.ator.io/ . Also
>     some hardware plans regarding Wifi routers with preinstalled "ator"
>     software/routing.
>
>     Personally, i'd say "kill it with fire", but well, thats just me :)
>     Nevertheless, i guess it could be helpful to make it clear also on
>     behalf of torproject.org <http://torproject.org>, that we're
>     neither support nor endorse their
>     plans and disencourage to use this stuff.
>
>     greetz
>     Richie
>
>     Am 16.03.23 um 20:25 schrieb Christian Pietsch via tor-relays:
>     > Dear Tor community,
>     >
>     > maybe the notes from the Tor relay operator meetup on March 4 should
>     > have mentioned that a participant called AirTor was kicked from that
>     > BBB conference.
>     >
>     > This happened because they were using “Tor” in their name and
>     > continued to make dubious offers like the one below which just
>     arrived
>     > in my NGO's inbox. They did not send it to the e-mail address in the
>     > ContactInfo of our Tor relays but a generic one. In BBB's text chat,
>     > they offered to change their name “if thats best,” but as you
>     can see,
>     > they have not. Instead, the signed as ATOR – but that might be a
>     typo.
>     >
>     > I am writing this to let you know that it's best to ignore e-mails
>     > like the one below. In the meetup, Roger made it increasingly clear
>     > that he does not believe that AirTor are acting in good faith.
>     >
>     > Cheers,
>     > Christian
>     >
>     >
>     > ----- Forwarded message -----
>     >
>     > From:   AirTor Team <team at airtor.org>
>     > Message-ID:   
>      <1167510526.29240.1678981005095 at eu1.myprofessionalmail.com>
>     > Subject:        Support for TOR relay associations
>     > X-Mailer:       Open-Xchange Mailer v8.10.73
>     > X-Originating-IP:       24.218.88.76
>     >
>     > Hello from ATOR!
>     > We are a community driven initiative that provides recognition
>     rewards to
>     > supporters and operators in the TOR ecosystem.
>     > We would love to recognize your efforts and the efforts of your
>     relay
>     > operators, and hear your opinions on the protocol we have in mind.
>     > Please let us know if this is something of interest to you. We
>     would also like
>     > to donate to help your operation grow and remain active.
>     > Thank you for your time, we hope to hear from you soon!
>     > Sincerely,
>     > ATOR team
>     >
>     > ----- End forwarded message -----
>     >
>     >
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