[tor-relays] 10 Years Torservers.net: Death or Future?

[niftybunny]

It was nothing personal at all.

My point was and is: You can’t substitute a German non profit with this organisation.

Even if you could, torservers.net are supporting all the others smaller orgs, not the other way around.

Thats a lot of work organising orgs and also avoiding  unnecessary work in one of the reason most orgs have strict reduced exit policies at place nowadays.

You get a few 100 abuse mails a day, you have to take care of the servers, talk to people, organise things, make sure everyone is happy.

The yearly paperwork for a non profit doesn’t really matter in the grand pattern of things.

Take care!

> On 8. Aug 2019, at 06:08, Mitar <mmitar at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> So I initially just wanted to share a tool/service which I think
> addresses some of the issues I noticed in projects, when people get
> burned out because of all the paperwork involved. I replied further to
> mostly address some, from my perspective, misunderstandings about this
> tool/service. By providing more information I thought people can
> decide better if this tool/service is something which could be useful
> here.
> 
> I think we are going now in circles and I think that for anyone who
> cares about this tool/service can read more information by themselves.
> I do not see much interest in it, so I will not continue this thread.
> If anyone has more questions about it and would like my ideas how it
> could be applied to this project, feel free to write to me directly.
> 
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 4:45 PM niftybunny
> <abuse-contact at to-surf-and-protect.net> wrote:
>> First off, nice to see you are fighting for the good in the world, while having a company in Delaware. Paying 0% taxes.
> 
> Not sure if this relates to me personally, but I am not involved with
> the company. And you are right that we should be mindful about how
> companies are incorporated, when deciding to deal with them. Not sure
> if this is the critical factor though, but it is for sure a factor.
> Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
> 
> And you are right that closer your non-profit host is to the project,
> easier it is to donate to your project. But I thought tor servers
> project is a global project, not a German project, so having fiscal
> sponsors all around the globe in fact, by your own argument, makes it
> easier to donate for more people. US people can donate to US based
> non-profit hosts, EU people can donate to EU based non-profit hosts,
> if there was a German host, then it would address your concern about
> German donations as well.
> 
> You can of course have a network of partners, like tor servers project
> has now to address the same need. But there is still paperwork will
> all this.
> 
> Anyway, this is all from my side. I hope all this energy I have
> observed just now could be redirected to further push tor servers
> project into the future. It is always easier to argue against than
> working towards.
> 
> 
> Mitar
> 
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