[tor-relays] 10 Years Torservers.net: Death or Future?

[niftybunny]

The problem (I think) is not the financial side. For a German non profit (eingetragener gemeinnütziger Verein) you need at least 7 people, lots of paperwork, going to your tax office, yearly mandatory meetings etc.

And that’s only to fund a non profit. To run this you need a lot of  labor to keep it going. A bank account and some shiny virtual medals for donors is the least of my problems.


> On 2. Aug 2019, at 17:44, Mitar <mmitar at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Yes, running a non-profit for you is not free (accounting costs, at
> least). I think costs are explained well here:
> 
> https://docs.opencollective.com/help/about/pricing
> 
> You can install Open Collective software on your own server and having
> your own fiscal host, and then there are no costs (see the last
> example in "Examples" table). So if torservers already has a
> non-profit, we could just install as software on our own servers. But
> I think the question is: do we have volunteers to step up and do work
> so that we can have no or little overhead, or if not, we can use a
> cloud service, but it costs us then 10%. I was trying to show an
> option for the second approach. But if there are already people
> stepping up, feel free to ignore me.
> 
> Of course anyone else can host an instance with less platform
> overhead. Or you can create an association in Germany and then become
> a sponsor for Open Collective projects, but not require any fee,
> lowering the overhead to 5% SaaS fee only.
> 
> 
> Mitar
> 
> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 4:49 AM niftybunny
> <abuse-contact at to-surf-and-protect.net> wrote:
>> 
>> They want 10% ONLY for money transfer. This must be a joke. You can get a bank account for free in 5 minutes in Germany.
>> 
>>> On 2. Aug 2019, at 03:35, Mitar <mmitar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> But these days I am playing with an idea that
>>> https://opencollective.com/ might be something which would allow one
>>> to duplicate and replicate what torservers have done without having to
>>> struggle through all the bureaucracy of making your own association,
>>> bank accounts and so on.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mitar
>>> 
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