[tor-relays] Explaining Tor to worried parent

Kenneth Freeman kencf0618 at riseup.net
Mon Nov 12 10:59:04 UTC 2018

On 11/12/2018 08:23 AM, niftybunny wrote:

> 1. ISPs want to make money, in fact they have to turn in a profit to survive. Yeah, I know 
>that sounds unbelievable. Tor is legal but someone has to take care of abuse mails. These support 
>people want money for their work. If you get lots of abuse mails and
the support person is working
>for 2 house on them and cost the company 50 euros and you are paying 10
euros for the hosting, they
>will try to get rid of you. Its simple as that. Another issue is that
their is tier 1 support that
>is dumb as hell. Try to talk to KabelDeutschland “Internet Specialists"
(now Vodafone) about DNS
>issues or the OSI model. They have no clue at all und you get suicidal after a few minutes over 
>the incompetence.

Just so. Legally ISP have to respond to DMCA notices, so the less legal
overhead they have to budget for the happier they are. When I first
began running Tor many moons ago I set up an exit node after an exchange
of e-mails with my ISP. Nonetheless they got a DMCA notice (copyright
violation) within two days and automatically cut me off at the knees.
I'm severely deaf and I had to phone the "Help" desk who weren't about
to deviate from their "Three strikes" script" and weren't interested
whatsoever in any input from my end other than following their protocol.

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