[tor-relays] Good vsp providers

Fri Jan 19 11:57:29 UTC 2018

On January 19, 2018 4:16:33 AM EST, niftybunny <abuse at to-surf-and-protect.net> wrote:
>Okay, you are from the US. Tor is legal in the US and legal in EU. You
>should be fine. I would not recommend  running a Tor Exit if you are
>from  Russia, UAE or Turkey. I used to have 20 Exists with Online.net
><http://online.net/> and I got lots of abuse but they were fine after
>verifying me. And by the way, you dont have much choice with traffic
>flat and Tor exit friendly anyway.
>
>Markus
>
>
>> On 19. Jan 2018, at 01:20, Fabian A. Santiago
><fsantiago at garbage-juice.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On January 18, 2018 6:26:40 PM EST, Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net>
>wrote:
>>> On 01/18/2018 11:54 AM, niftybunny wrote:
>>>> You will held responsible to your actions (traffic). So worst case
>>> scenario is: They give your personal data to a LEA and you are now
>in
>>> charge to explain to a LEO that this is a Tor Exit. 
>>>> Depends on your country if this is a good idea. If you dont want
>any
>>> personal data with your VPS, get a bulletproof VPS but even offshore
>>> ISPs ban Tor Exists together with CP and hate speech. 
>>>> 
>>>> Welcome to the wonderful world of Tor Exists.
>>>> Enjoy your stay.
>>>> 
>>>> Markus
>>> 
>>> How about HostSailor? They accept Bitcoin, and don't authenticate
>>> customers. But I don't know how they'd handle Tor relays.
>>> 
>>>>> On 18. Jan 2018, at 23:45, Fabian A. Santiago
>>> <fsantiago at garbage-juice.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> January 18, 2018 4:50 PM, "George" <george at queair.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> niftybunny:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> online.net <http://online.net>
>>>>>>> trabia.com <http://trabia.com> (ask first)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> both offer 100mbit for less than 5 euros
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is a CSV file that TDP is slowly tinkering with. While it's
>>> focused
>>>>>> on BSD-providing VPSs, most offer more.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>
>https://github.com/torbsd/torbsd.github.io/blob/master/docs/bsd-vps.md
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> g
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> I asked online.net about their cloud ssd vps service and tor and
>>> have the following dialog going:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "
>>>>> Hello. I'm interested in running a Tor relay exit node on your
>cloud
>>> SSD vps product. Is this allowed? I would be running a reduced
>reduced
>>> exit policy. Thank you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ****************************************
>>>>> 
>>>>> Flavio Pastore 1/18/18 5:13 PM
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for your ticket.
>>>>> Our platform is a IaaS one. So, if you're willing to set up legal
>>> activities, you're more than welcome regardless of the service used.
>If
>>> not, you will reported accordingly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope I have this point clear, but we remain here at your entire
>>> disposal for any further information.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Flavio 
>>>>> Online / Scaleway
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>>> https://careers.scaleway.com/
>>>>> 
>>>>> ****************************
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fabian.santiago at gmail.com 1/18/18 5:40 PM
>>>>> By legal services, do you mean a mechanism in order to respond to
>>> abuse reports? if so, i have covered that need by the following:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1.> i publish a tor readme html page on the server for anyone to
>>> browse to learn about tor and what my server is doing. it also
>includes
>>> links to the tor project's own pages with additional information. I
>>> would also be published in the tor atlas showing my node's
>information
>>> for all to see that i am a tor node. 
>>>>> 2.> i publish contact information so that complaint concerns can
>be
>>> addressed to me directly as needed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> will this suffice in your opinion? could you also make a note on
>>> your end that I would be running an exit relay so that you know, in
>>> case you do wind up receiving complaints about my node's traffic? I
>>> find (and have read) that with a reduced reduced exit policy the
>chance
>>> for complaint generating traffic is greatly minimized anyway. thank
>>> you.
>>>>> "
>>>>> 
>>>>> so they seem to be kewl with it but in your opinions, what does he
>>> mean by "legal activities"? Thanks. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fabian S.
>>>>> 
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>> 
>> Uggh, monthly recurring Bitcoin payments sounds painful. Nah. 
>> 
>> Maybe not a good idea then with online.net. they seem to offer vps'
>in Paris and Amsterdam and I have no idea what their LE would do when
>handed my info. So forget it. 
>> 
>> Ok, any decently priced unmetered providers with servers in the US? I
>am in the US.
>> 
>> I'll check out the csv someone mentioned as well. Thanks.
>> 
>> They also just added this response:
>> 
>> "
>> Flavio Pastore wrote: 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for providing us more information about what services you're
>going to use in your server.
>> 
>> By the way, it is very difficult to give you an exhaustive reply in
>advance, there is not a full text explaining what can be considered as
>illegal and what legal instead.
>> 
>> But we ensure to apply the EU law as general set of rules, and the
>French law as specific set of rules.
>> 
>> Besides, it is impossible to give you all details about that
>unfortunately.
>> 
>> Finally , regarding the exit policy, it depends on the abuse and our
>security team treats case by case according to the specific abuse
>committed. 
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> "
>> 
>> Thanks again everyone. 
>> --
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Fabian S.
>> 
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Thanks; after you and "I", I've already started building it out. 
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Thanks,

Fabian S.

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