[tor-relays] Good vsp providers

Fri Jan 19 09:16:33 UTC 2018

Okay, you are from the US. Tor is legal in the US and legal in EU. You should be fine. I would not recommend  running a Tor Exit if you are from  Russia, UAE or Turkey. I used to have 20 Exists with Online.net <http://online.net/> and I got lots of abuse but they were fine after verifying me. And by the way, you dont have much choice with traffic flat and Tor exit friendly anyway.

Markus

> On 19. Jan 2018, at 01:20, Fabian A. Santiago <fsantiago at garbage-juice.com> wrote:
> 
> On January 18, 2018 6:26:40 PM EST, Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net> wrote:
>> On 01/18/2018 11:54 AM, niftybunny wrote:
>>> You will held responsible to your actions (traffic). So worst case
>> scenario is: They give your personal data to a LEA and you are now in
>> charge to explain to a LEO that this is a Tor Exit. 
>>> Depends on your country if this is a good idea. If you dont want any
>> personal data with your VPS, get a bulletproof VPS but even offshore
>> ISPs ban Tor Exists together with CP and hate speech. 
>>> 
>>> Welcome to the wonderful world of Tor Exists.
>>> Enjoy your stay.
>>> 
>>> Markus
>> 
>> How about HostSailor? They accept Bitcoin, and don't authenticate
>> customers. But I don't know how they'd handle Tor relays.
>> 
>>>> On 18. Jan 2018, at 23:45, Fabian A. Santiago
>> <fsantiago at garbage-juice.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> January 18, 2018 4:50 PM, "George" <george at queair.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> niftybunny:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> online.net <http://online.net>
>>>>>> trabia.com <http://trabia.com> (ask first)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> both offer 100mbit for less than 5 euros
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is a CSV file that TDP is slowly tinkering with. While it's
>> focused
>>>>> on BSD-providing VPSs, most offer more.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> https://github.com/torbsd/torbsd.github.io/blob/master/docs/bsd-vps.md
>>>>> 
>>>>> g
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> 
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>>>> I asked online.net about their cloud ssd vps service and tor and
>> have the following dialog going:
>>>> 
>>>> "
>>>> Hello. I'm interested in running a Tor relay exit node on your cloud
>> SSD vps product. Is this allowed? I would be running a reduced reduced
>> exit policy. Thank you.
>>>> 
>>>> ****************************************
>>>> 
>>>> Flavio Pastore 1/18/18 5:13 PM
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for your ticket.
>>>> Our platform is a IaaS one. So, if you're willing to set up legal
>> activities, you're more than welcome regardless of the service used. If
>> not, you will reported accordingly.
>>>> 
>>>> I hope I have this point clear, but we remain here at your entire
>> disposal for any further information.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Flavio 
>>>> Online / Scaleway
>>>> Looking for an amazing job? Join us NOW !
>> https://careers.scaleway.com/
>>>> 
>>>> ****************************
>>>> 
>>>> Fabian.santiago at gmail.com 1/18/18 5:40 PM
>>>> By legal services, do you mean a mechanism in order to respond to
>> abuse reports? if so, i have covered that need by the following:
>>>> 
>>>> 1.> i publish a tor readme html page on the server for anyone to
>> browse to learn about tor and what my server is doing. it also includes
>> links to the tor project's own pages with additional information. I
>> would also be published in the tor atlas showing my node's information
>> for all to see that i am a tor node. 
>>>> 2.> i publish contact information so that complaint concerns can be
>> addressed to me directly as needed.
>>>> 
>>>> will this suffice in your opinion? could you also make a note on
>> your end that I would be running an exit relay so that you know, in
>> case you do wind up receiving complaints about my node's traffic? I
>> find (and have read) that with a reduced reduced exit policy the chance
>> for complaint generating traffic is greatly minimized anyway. thank
>> you.
>>>> "
>>>> 
>>>> so they seem to be kewl with it but in your opinions, what does he
>> mean by "legal activities"? Thanks. 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Fabian S.
>>>> 
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> 
> Uggh, monthly recurring Bitcoin payments sounds painful. Nah. 
> 
> Maybe not a good idea then with online.net. they seem to offer vps' in Paris and Amsterdam and I have no idea what their LE would do when handed my info. So forget it. 
> 
> Ok, any decently priced unmetered providers with servers in the US? I am in the US.
> 
> I'll check out the csv someone mentioned as well. Thanks.
> 
> They also just added this response:
> 
> "
> Flavio Pastore wrote: 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> Thanks for providing us more information about what services you're going to use in your server.
> 
> By the way, it is very difficult to give you an exhaustive reply in advance, there is not a full text explaining what can be considered as illegal and what legal instead.
> 
> But we ensure to apply the EU law as general set of rules, and the French law as specific set of rules.
> 
> Besides, it is impossible to give you all details about that unfortunately.
> 
> Finally , regarding the exit policy, it depends on the abuse and our security team treats case by case according to the specific abuse committed. 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> "
> 
> Thanks again everyone. 
> --
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Fabian S.
> 
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