[tor-relays] Abuse Complaints

Nathaniel Suchy me at lunorian.is
Wed Aug 29 14:32:36 UTC 2018


Is Irdeto harassing you with DMCAs or just the hacking / forum spam
complaints?
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 9:35 AM John Ricketts <john at quintex.com> wrote:

> I am thankful that I have my own AS and IP space.  I would even think
> about running mass relays like I do.
> I am running the reduced exit policy on all 50 of my relays and still get
> tons of automated stuff like you spoke about.
>
>
>
> On Aug 29, 2018, at 08:32, Nathaniel Suchy <me at lunorian.is> wrote:
>
> Almost never if you use the reduced exit policy or the browser only policy
> (only allowing 80,443,53).
>
> Now, If you leave all ports open like Conrad and I do on most of our
> relays, a copyright enforcement company called Irdeto USA (the same people
> behind Denuvo Game DRM) will send you threats and harassment, ignore your
> replies, and contact upstreams directly rather than the contact on the SWIP
> Record - be rich and get your own ASN to get around this. Now, Irdeto's
> business strategy is a simple one they need only to flood your ISP's abuse
> department with as many automated DMCA Emails as possible until they get
> too many to ever hope to respond to and then try to get them to terminate
> your account. Depending on the ISP it'll work.
>
> Cordially,
> Nathaniel Suchy
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 8:49 AM Ralph Seichter <m16+tor at monksofcool.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 29.08.2018 12:48, John Ricketts wrote:
>>
>> > For the non-automated emails I reply each time.
>>
>> Same here. At one time I had written a generator script that fills in
>> details of the complaining party, like IP addresses, and adds general
>> descriptions about what Tor is, with links to facilitate further
>> reading. Only very rarely the generated reply was not enough to satisfy
>> or at least placate the complaining party. Unfortunately I can't seem
>> find my script any more.
>>
>> Automated complaints are a different matter. I don't feel the need to
>> converse with Fail2ban or WebIron bots.
>>
>> -Ralph
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