[tor-relays] Abuse Complaints

John Ricketts john at quintex.com
Wed Aug 29 13:35:08 UTC 2018


I am thankful that I have my own AS and IP space.  I would even think about running mass relays like I do.
I am running the reduced exit policy on all 50 of my relays and still get tons of automated stuff like you spoke about.



On Aug 29, 2018, at 08:32, Nathaniel Suchy <me at lunorian.is<mailto:me at lunorian.is>> wrote:

Almost never if you use the reduced exit policy or the browser only policy (only allowing 80,443,53).

Now, If you leave all ports open like Conrad and I do on most of our relays, a copyright enforcement company called Irdeto USA (the same people behind Denuvo Game DRM) will send you threats and harassment, ignore your replies, and contact upstreams directly rather than the contact on the SWIP Record - be rich and get your own ASN to get around this. Now, Irdeto's business strategy is a simple one they need only to flood your ISP's abuse department with as many automated DMCA Emails as possible until they get too many to ever hope to respond to and then try to get them to terminate your account. Depending on the ISP it'll work.

Cordially,
Nathaniel Suchy

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 8:49 AM Ralph Seichter <m16+tor at monksofcool.net<mailto:m16%2Btor at monksofcool.net>> wrote:
On 29.08.2018 12:48, John Ricketts wrote:

> For the non-automated emails I reply each time.

Same here. At one time I had written a generator script that fills in
details of the complaining party, like IP addresses, and adds general
descriptions about what Tor is, with links to facilitate further
reading. Only very rarely the generated reply was not enough to satisfy
or at least placate the complaining party. Unfortunately I can't seem
find my script any more.

Automated complaints are a different matter. I don't feel the need to
converse with Fail2ban or WebIron bots.

-Ralph
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