[tor-relays] Middle relay still an useful contribution?

teor teor2345 at gmail.com
Wed Jan 18 04:57:23 UTC 2017


> On 18 Jan 2017, at 09:14, Steve Snyder <swsnyder at snydernet.net> wrote:
> 
> Note that a bridge is not guaranteed to be used. I've seen plenty of bridges, both plain-vanilla and obfs4, with or without IPv6, regardless of geography, that use only a few megabytes of bandwidth per month. Everything seems good in terms of connectivity yet there is basically just housekeeping traffic. Some bridges just seem to go ignored as entry points into the Tor network.
> 
> Not trying to dissuade you from running a bridge, just pointing out that that the bandwidth you want to donate to the Tor network may not be utilized. In contrast, I haven't seen a mature middle node that went unused.

Bridges are allocated to users at random (and some are randomly chosen
to be reserved). So they might not be used. You can set up 2 bridges per
IPv4 address, and you can give them an IPv6 address, too.

In contrast, all Tor clients see all tor relays, and choose paths at
random. So all tor relays are used according to their bandwidth weights.

Tim

> On 01/17/2017 02:59 PM, Olaf Grimm wrote:
>> I thinking about a bridge too. But which port is not censored in China?
>> I have read an article about the firewall of China. They doing DPI and
>> filtering all encrypted traffic. Obfsproxy should be a good choice. A
>> short test give me some experience for tor connections, but more traffic
>> inside as outside (asymmetric). I'm not sure that will work right.
>> 
>> A middle node need some days to get some traffic. An exit node is at
>> full power in some hours. The guard flag for the middle nodes came after
>> 2 weeks, I think.
>> 
>> Can someone give me a proposal for a bridge port that is usefull for
>> censored countries?
>> 
>> Olaf
>> 
>> 
>> On 17.01.2017 17:29, Christian Pietsch wrote:
>>> Hi Ortez,
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:32:44AM -0500, Ortez wrote:
>>>> Not right now. I know bridges are needed for users in countries like china and so on, but are they used much?
>>> Yes. A bridge will utilize your server's bandwidth just as nicely as
>>> an exit relay would. Someone recently posted impressive diagrams to
>>> illustrate this, but I cannot find them now. In addition, please try
>>> to install a pluggable transport such as obfs4 to make your bridge
>>> more censorship-resistant!
>>> 
>>> Thanks for asking!
>>> C:
>>> 
>>> 
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