[tor-relays] ISP is aking me to send a selfie holding my identity card

[niftybunny]

One more thing …

http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/tkg_2004/__95.html <http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/tkg_2004/__95.html>

The law says: 

(4) Der Diensteanbieter kann im Zusammenhang mit dem Begründen und dem Ändern des Vertragsverhältnisses sowie dem Erbringen von Telekommunikationsdiensten die Vorlage eines amtlichen Ausweises verlangen, wenn dies zur Überprüfung der Angaben des Teilnehmers erforderlich ist. 

We have a german law that explicit states that an ISP can demand a copy of your passport. 

But surely its highly illegal besides the law explicit allows it … whatever … 

Markus

> On 8. Dec 2017, at 13:24, niftybunny <abuse at to-surf-and-protect.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8. Dec 2017, at 10:23, Alexander Dietrich <alexander at dietrich.cx <mailto:alexander at dietrich.cx>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have no experience with Hetzner, but no ISP in Germany (or elsewhere) has ever asked me for a copy of my passport. I'd rather spend my money elsewhere.
>> 
>> (For German readers: it's illegal to create photocopies of the latest generation of ID cards, except for government agencies, banks and such, AFAIK.
>> 
> No its is not and its normal with banks, ISPs,  web hosting etc 
> 
> proof: https://www.datenschutzbeauftragter-info.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Personalausweis-kopieren-Stellungnahme-BMI.pdf <https://www.datenschutzbeauftragter-info.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Personalausweis-kopieren-Stellungnahme-BMI.pdf>
> 
> Look it up and stop starting rumours …
> 
> Markus
> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Alexander
>> 
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>> PGP Key: https://dietrich.cx/pgp <https://dietrich.cx/pgp> | 0x52FA4EE1722D54EB
>> 
>> 
>> On 2017-12-08 02:46, niftybunny wrote:
>> 
>>> I do not think they will compromise and this is "normal" behaviour for a ISP from Europe. Online.net <http://online.net/> is cheap, fast and has good support. I would send them what they demanded. In Germany you have to send them a copy of your passport before they even get you a server. Got this with Hetzner. So, nothing to worry about.
>>>  
>>> Cheers,
>>>  
>>> Markus
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 8. Dec 2017, at 02:41, Tanous <tanous at protonmail.com <mailto:tanous at protonmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Markus, I'll ask them if there is another way to unlock my account.
>>>> In this situations i'm never certain if I have been hacked or something...
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Tanous
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: Re: [tor-relays] ISP is aking me to send a selfie holding my identity card
>>>> Local Time: December 7, 2017 11:26 PM
>>>> UTC Time: December 8, 2017 1:26 AM
>>>> From: abuse at to-surf-and-protect.net <mailto:abuse at to-surf-and-protect.net>
>>>> To: tor-relays at lists.torproject.org <mailto:tor-relays at lists.torproject.org>
>>>>  
>>>> Same happened here. Sent them their stuff they demanded and 2 days later my account was restored and they are "fine" with abuse. 
>>>>  
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>  
>>>> Markus
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>> On 8. Dec 2017, at 02:24, Tanous <tanous at protonmail.com <mailto:tanous at protonmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> it is Online.net <http://online.net/>.
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com/> Secure Email.
>>>>>  
>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>> Subject: Re: [tor-relays] ISP is aking me to send a selfie holding my identity card
>>>>> Local Time: December 7, 2017 10:57 PM
>>>>> UTC Time: December 8, 2017 12:57 AM
>>>>> From: abuse at to-surf-and-protect.net <mailto:abuse at to-surf-and-protect.net>
>>>>> To: tor-relays at lists.torproject.org <mailto:tor-relays at lists.torproject.org>
>>>>>  
>>>>> DigitalOcean demanded access to my FaceBook and Twitter account for verification ...
>>>>> I do not own a Twitter or Facebook account ...
>>>>>  
>>>>> Which ISP is it?
>>>>>  
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>  
>>>>> Markus
>>>>>  
>>>>>> On 8. Dec 2017, at 01:54, Tanous tanous at protonmail.com <mailto:tanous at protonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Im running an exit relay for 116 days. Today i received an email from my ISP saying that my account has been locked for security reasons.
>>>>>> They asked me to send a copy of my identity card and a selfie holding it. I found that very odd and i feel uncomfortable sending that data to them.
>>>>>> Should i give up to running my exit relay and find another ISP?
>>>>>> By the way, i had received an abuse complaint a day before, due to Brute force attempts.
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> Tanous
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