[tor-relays] Tor abuse complaints (per MBit/s)

Sadia Afroz sadia at icsi.berkeley.edu
Thu Sep 29 05:05:33 UTC 2016


Moritz,
We did not publish the report anywhere. 
I put it up on my site just for the ease of sharing it in the mailing list. 
I can take the report down if you are not comfortable with it being public.

> On Sep 28, 2016, at 9:55 PM, Moritz Bartl <moritz at torservers.net> wrote:
> 
> On 09/28/2016 09:12 PM, nusenu wrote:
>> In your number of complains over time graphs you do not seem to take
>> traffic into account?
>> 
>> Would you care to add a
>> number of complains over time per MBit/s of exit relay traffic?
> 
> I strongly urged them to do exactly this before they publish. The
> absolute numbers are quite pointless, and, worse, dangerous. All it
> takes is a journalist taking them the wrong way and we have a negative
> press fallout. This is the main reason why I was very reluctant to hand
> them over in the first place -- they really must be interpreted in
> context, ideally comparing them to a similar, normalized data set from
> VPN providers and Internet access providers.
> 
> I appreciate that they're trying to make sense out of the data, and it
> is definitely quite some work to weed through all of it. Maybe it's OK
> as a first initial analysis, and maybe we should rather be transparent
> and let the press mess it up than hiding it. The next step is cleaning
> it up further, and then going through the archives [1] to match it with
> bandwidth usage and changes in exit policies over time.
> 
> Due to the method used, nforce and voxility show up with large counts as
> "origin" of complaints, even though they send zero abuse complaints --
> they are just two of our largest and very friendly ISPs, and they show
> up because all of that are complaints they forward to us.
> 
> [1] https://collector.torproject.org/
> 
> -- 
> Moritz Bartl
> https://www.torservers.net/
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Best,
Sadia

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