[tor-relays] "Potentially dangerous relay groups"

pa011 pa011 at web.de
Wed Sep 28 19:19:37 UTC 2016



Am 27.09.2016 um 19:37 schrieb nusenu:
> pa011 at web.de wrote:
>> there is that list of "potentially_dangerous_relaygroups" you published.
>> Could yo please emphasize a bit more on what brings a relay on that list, apart from incorrect given MyFamily which doesnt seem to be always the case.
>> I mean I see quite a few well respected names on that list ?
> 
> 
> to quote from https://github.com/ornetstats/stats
> (1)     "dangerous" in the sense that a tor client might has a chance to
> use more than one of these relays in a single circuit
> (2)     these relays are aggregated based on contact information
> (3)     if their groupsize is bigger than their effective family size
> and they are operated in more than one /16 network block they are listed
> (4)     this list might contain false-positives (contact information is
> not authenticated)
> 
> Does that answer your question?
> 
> I probably should also filter entries where two out of guard_prob,
> middle_prob and exit_prob are 0 since that means that (1) is never the
> case - iff onionoo is right about these probabilities.

nusenu,

great respect of your work at first and thank you for the answer provided as well.

It - plus the follow up from that many contributors - did answer my questions apart from two left:

- should only Markus be contacted instead of lets say at least all the folks with more than 2 notes to make them aware?
- how could it take nearly a week for that serious discussion to start?

I tend to agree with what has been written "I am in favour of a scheme where the process of joining a family is 
authenticated." Personally I will correct my entries soon to get me off that list :-)




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