[tor-relays] [Fwd: Re: I'm Running A Tor Exit But Never Initiated It]

Percy Blakeney di99in5 at gmail.com
Tue May 31 19:02:53 UTC 2016


I'm not offended in the least.  No worries.  The only reason I'm contacting
anyone about this is the sheer fact Tor folders, files and connections are
running through my systems and connection.  Otherwise, I would have kept
all of this to myself.  Tor is extremely important and my fear is that
someone out there maybe attempting to disguise themselves to enter it.  I'm
far from being IT savvy, however, I've spent the last six or so months
trying to read everything I can possibly read to get a better understanding
as to what's going on.  Now, according to my Dell and Acer which both run
Mint, when I try to install Tor I'm told I already have it.  When I try to
run Tor I'm told I don't have it.  When I try to remove it, it comes back.
However, I have a Lenovo with Windows10 on it.  With that computer I was
able to install the Tor browser with no problems.  So here I am with one
laptop that has the browser installed while my other two computers show
that I'm running a relay.  If this is nothing to be concerned over then
that's that but I would like to make sure from possibly the friendly people
here just in case.  This is what I have as of today:


May 31 07:35:23.000 [notice] Tor 0.2.4.27 (git-412e3f7dc9c6c01a) opening
new log file.
May 31 09:48:33.000 [notice] Heartbeat: Tor's uptime is 14 days 12:00
hours, with 0 circuits open. I've sent 6.34 MB and received 138.42 MB.
May 31 09:48:33.000 [notice] Average packaged cell fullness: 77.895%
May 31 09:48:33.000 [notice] TLS write overhead: 7%
May 31 12:42:51.000 [notice] Tor 0.2.4.27 (git-412e3f7dc9c6c01a) opening
log file.
May 31 12:42:53.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 5%: Connecting to directory
server.
May 31 12:42:53.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 45%: Asking for relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:53.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 50%: Loading relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:53.000 [notice] I learned some more directory information, but
not enough to build a circuit: We need more microdescriptors: we have
0/7013, and can only build 0% of likely paths. (We have 0% of guards bw, 0%
of midpoint bw, and 0% of exit bw.)
May 31 12:42:53.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 51%: Loading relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:54.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 53%: Loading relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:54.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 54%: Loading relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:54.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 56%: Loading relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:54.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 57%: Loading relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:54.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 59%: Loading relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:54.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 60%: Loading relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:54.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 62%: Loading relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:54.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 63%: Loading relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:54.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 65%: Loading relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:54.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 66%: Loading relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:54.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 68%: Loading relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:54.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 69%: Loading relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:54.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 71%: Loading relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:54.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 72%: Loading relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:54.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 74%: Loading relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:54.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 75%: Loading relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:54.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 77%: Loading relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:54.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 78%: Loading relay descriptors.
May 31 12:42:54.000 [notice] I learned some more directory information, but
not enough to build a circuit: We need more microdescriptors: we have
3220/7013, and can only build 11% of likely paths. (We have 48% of guards
bw, 48% of midpoint bw, and 49% of exit bw.)
May 31 12:42:56.000 [notice] We now have enough directory information to
build circuits.
May 31 12:42:56.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 80%: Connecting to the Tor
network.
May 31 12:42:56.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 90%: Establishing a Tor circuit.
May 31 12:42:57.000 [notice] Tor has successfully opened a circuit. Looks
like client functionality is working.
May 31 12:42:57.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 100%: Done.




May 30 07:35:20.000 [notice] Tor 0.2.4.27 (git-412e3f7dc9c6c01a) opening
new log file.
May 30 09:48:33.000 [notice] Heartbeat: Tor's uptime is 13 days 12:00
hours, with 0 circuits open. I've sent 6.00 MB and received 128.80 MB.
May 30 09:48:33.000 [notice] Average packaged cell fullness: 78.591%
May 30 09:48:33.000 [notice] TLS write overhead: 7%
May 30 15:48:33.000 [notice] Heartbeat: Tor's uptime is 13 days 18:00
hours, with 0 circuits open. I've sent 6.06 MB and received 130.60 MB.
May 30 15:48:33.000 [notice] Average packaged cell fullness: 78.468%
May 30 15:48:33.000 [notice] TLS write overhead: 7%
May 30 21:48:33.000 [notice] Heartbeat: Tor's uptime is 14 days 0:00 hours,
with 0 circuits open. I've sent 6.19 MB and received 134.22 MB.
May 30 21:48:33.000 [notice] Average packaged cell fullness: 78.172%
May 30 21:48:33.000 [notice] TLS write overhead: 7%
May 31 03:48:33.000 [notice] Heartbeat: Tor's uptime is 14 days 6:00 hours,
with 0 circuits open. I've sent 6.25 MB and received 136.02 MB.
May 31 03:48:33.000 [notice] Average packaged cell fullness: 78.053%
May 31 03:48:33.000 [notice] TLS write overhead: 7%
May 31 07:35:23.000 [notice] Received reload signal (hup). Reloading config
and resetting internal state.
May 31 07:35:23.000 [notice] Read configuration file
"/usr/share/tor/tor-service-defaults-torrc".
May 31 07:35:23.000 [notice] Read configuration file "/etc/tor/torrc".





On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Gumby <info at gumbyzee.torzone.net> wrote:

> I am a tech, a good one, who also runs 2 relays from my shop. I have found
> in client PC's many hidden things - such as proxys running for malware
> delivery. They were totally unaware except for slow and losing disk space.
> (Finding Tor running is a bit too extreme) I've also had two clients that
> were "absolutely" sure that someone was out to get them - cyber-stalking in
> their eyes. I actually did all of the suggestions made prior - new drive,
> reset or new router, even walked the home and perimeter looking for
> connections. I was positive of my security (30 years doing this) but they
> were calm for less than 4 weeks then started again. Their spouses, to their
> credit, stayed quiet and just rolled their eyes.
> Could a malicious technician do this? Hell yeah - most of us could do it
> dozens of times and they'd never know. We have too much moral decency,
> but.... others don't.
> More than likely, it is a scenario as christian states .... too much
> overload somewhere.
>    Or a troll, we hope not.
>
> Me
>
>
> On 05/30/2016 04:27 PM, Christian wrote:
>
>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
>>
>>> Von: Christian Adam <hirnwurst at t-online.de>
>>> An: tor-relays at lists.torproject.org
>>> Betreff: Re: [tor-relays] I'm Running A Tor Exit But Never Initiated
>>> It
>>> Datum: Mon, 30 May 2016 22:14:51 +0200
>>>
>>> Dear Percy,
>>>
>>> I read all of your messages very carefully and, please, believe me, I
>>> don't mean to be rude, but just want to provide you a little bit of
>>> relief.
>>>
>>> First of all, I have to share that I AM in fact a schizophrenic for 16
>>> years now, but fully therapied to the extent I do a job as a system
>>> administrator and get certified for being a data security officer this
>>> week.
>>> This won't reveal any competence on my side, but gives a clue about my
>>> functional level which is, after all, related to sanity.
>>>
>>> << snip >>
>>>
>>> Given my experience with newbie users, paranoia and system
>>> administration, what you wrote seemed quite normal and you didn't
>>> provide (as far as I remember) any unusual technical details.
>>>
>>> Maybe what just happened was a lack of informed consent resulting in a
>>> tasteless prank.
>>>
>>> I don't want to do injustice to you, but since Edward Snowden, we're all
>>> used to question every system crash and honestly, our times seem to be
>>> hysterical and violence-saturated.
>>>
>>> The rule is simple. When a user thinks he's infected, he's almost always
>>> not.
>>> If he's infected, he wouldn't notice.
>>>
>>> Hugs, I hope you find peace again soon.
>>>
>>> Please don't feel offended, I only told my story based on the facts you
>>> gave.
>>>
>>> And kind regards,
>>>
>>> christian
>>>
>>>
>>> Am Montag, den 30.05.2016, 13:25 +0200 schrieb Christian Pietsch:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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